Cross Keys rugby player Rhys Peebles jailed for punching opponent after match

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A CROSS Keys rugby player has been jailed for a year after a punch he threw during a “huge” end-of-game brawl left a fellow player in need of 28 stitches.

Back row forward Rhys Peebles, 30, was sentenced for malicious wounding and inflicting grievous bodily harm at Cardiff Crown Court on Tuesday.

The incident took place on November 29 last year, during the dying minutes of the Principality Premiership away game against Cardiff RFC at Cardiff Arms Park.

Callum Lewis, from Merthyr, was left with a nasty cut below his eye and only returned to action last week, said a Cardiff RFC spokesman after the hearing.

In mitigation, Jonathan Wellington said Peebles, who was sent off for throwing the punch, had lashed out “in the heat of the moment”.

“There was a huge brawl and everything happened so quickly that, in his mind, he thought the other player was moving towards the brawl and he lashed out. Obviously that blow landed.”

Mr Lewis, 20, is said to have made a full recovery and is currently playing for Wales Under-20s.

But Peebles, of Pontywaun, was handed a 12-month custodial sentence on Tuesday and was ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £120.

He pleaded guilty at a preliminary hearing on January 7.

Cross Keys won the game against Cardiff 38-10, to make it six straight competitive wins up to that point.

Peebles, said on the Cross Keys RFC website to be a carpenter, is listed as 6ft 2in tall and weighing 16-and-a-half stones.

He lists past clubs as Abercarn, but has played for Cross Keys since 2005.

His best season came in the 2011/12 campaign when he was on the winning side for 20 out of the 29 games he played, scoring 15 points.

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7:13am Fri 31 Jan 14

CaptainB says...

Should never be allowed to set foot on a Rugby or any other pitch, no place for this in SPORT!!!!!
Should never be allowed to set foot on a Rugby or any other pitch, no place for this in SPORT!!!!! CaptainB
  • Score: -73

8:48am Fri 31 Jan 14

Boooosh says...

Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time!
Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time! Boooosh
  • Score: 86

9:10am Fri 31 Jan 14

Truthbtold2013 says...

Booooosh you talk a lot of rubbish so if this punch caused more damage you believe that it should still as you say what happens in the pitch stays on the pitch I hope you get 28 stitches and then see what you say
Booooosh you talk a lot of rubbish so if this punch caused more damage you believe that it should still as you say what happens in the pitch stays on the pitch I hope you get 28 stitches and then see what you say Truthbtold2013
  • Score: -53

9:46am Fri 31 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye.
Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye. Woodgnome
  • Score: -41

10:03am Fri 31 Jan 14

meritho7 says...

To be sentenced a year in prison for ONE punch! That's what's disgusting! There is no nicer person than Rhys Peebles. The incident involved 30 Odd players and he's been made an example of!!
To be sentenced a year in prison for ONE punch! That's what's disgusting! There is no nicer person than Rhys Peebles. The incident involved 30 Odd players and he's been made an example of!! meritho7
  • Score: 96

10:11am Fri 31 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

It would be natural for his family, team mates and supporters to back him - but they fail to be impartial or objective. No doubt his defence made all these points. Made an example of yes - usually in thuggery cases.
It would be natural for his family, team mates and supporters to back him - but they fail to be impartial or objective. No doubt his defence made all these points. Made an example of yes - usually in thuggery cases. Woodgnome
  • Score: -45

10:14am Fri 31 Jan 14

DDDog1 says...

He's in the wrong sport,should take up boxing.
He's in the wrong sport,should take up boxing. DDDog1
  • Score: -22

10:34am Fri 31 Jan 14

vertidog says...

Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response. vertidog
  • Score: 141

10:38am Fri 31 Jan 14

NakedDancer says...

Boooosh wrote:
Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time!
Huh ? Punching is against the rules of rugby. If you throw a punch on or off the pitch you take the chance you will cause damage you didn't intend. Everyone has a duty of care on the pitch otherwise everyone would be coming off with 28 stitches or worse and there would be no game of rugby.
[quote][p][bold]Boooosh[/bold] wrote: Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time![/p][/quote]Huh ? Punching is against the rules of rugby. If you throw a punch on or off the pitch you take the chance you will cause damage you didn't intend. Everyone has a duty of care on the pitch otherwise everyone would be coming off with 28 stitches or worse and there would be no game of rugby. NakedDancer
  • Score: 4

10:49am Fri 31 Jan 14

meritho7 says...

I think you're all forgetting the fact that rhys pleaded guilty! He's shown remorse! The disgust and shock lies in the decision at court to sentence him to one year in prison!!! As for him being in the wrong sport, he is an excellent player who is well thought of! Maybe 'others' should consider a different sport. Non contact sports!
I think you're all forgetting the fact that rhys pleaded guilty! He's shown remorse! The disgust and shock lies in the decision at court to sentence him to one year in prison!!! As for him being in the wrong sport, he is an excellent player who is well thought of! Maybe 'others' should consider a different sport. Non contact sports! meritho7
  • Score: 40

11:02am Fri 31 Jan 14

Rocco15 says...

It seems as though the crosskeys player is being punished for hitting harder than the 28+ That were fighting.
I'm not saying what he has done is ok cos it's not but people have done 100 times worse and avoided prison.
Looks like he has been stitched up (no pun intended).
The punch hasn't effect the Cardiff player that much. He is running out for the u20s tonight.

Vertidog hit the nail on the head.
It seems as though the crosskeys player is being punished for hitting harder than the 28+ That were fighting. I'm not saying what he has done is ok cos it's not but people have done 100 times worse and avoided prison. Looks like he has been stitched up (no pun intended). The punch hasn't effect the Cardiff player that much. He is running out for the u20s tonight. Vertidog hit the nail on the head. Rocco15
  • Score: 62

11:49am Fri 31 Jan 14

risca_boyo says...

Can not believe he has gone to jail!

I notice the article hasn't mentioned the Cardiff captain slamming the ball in to his face who instigated the fight. No one condones punching, but it happens up and down the country on the rugby field, just sounds like a complete tuck up to me. Disgrace.
Can not believe he has gone to jail! I notice the article hasn't mentioned the Cardiff captain slamming the ball in to his face who instigated the fight. No one condones punching, but it happens up and down the country on the rugby field, just sounds like a complete tuck up to me. Disgrace. risca_boyo
  • Score: 70

12:29pm Fri 31 Jan 14

NakedDancer says...

vertidog wrote:
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes.

"sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law.

"of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged.

If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences.
[quote][p][bold]vertidog[/bold] wrote: Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response.[/p][/quote]"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes. "sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law. "of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged. If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences. NakedDancer
  • Score: -16

12:47pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

vertidog wrote:
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
I fully understand why you are emotionally involved. The outcome is a tragedy for this young man. You say the court listened to your points but the court clearly thought otherwise. A 12 month sentence reflects how seriously the Court viewed it. This does not excuse any of the others involved in thuggery and they should have been charged too.
[quote][p][bold]vertidog[/bold] wrote: Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response.[/p][/quote]I fully understand why you are emotionally involved. The outcome is a tragedy for this young man. You say the court listened to your points but the court clearly thought otherwise. A 12 month sentence reflects how seriously the Court viewed it. This does not excuse any of the others involved in thuggery and they should have been charged too. Woodgnome
  • Score: 5

12:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Voodoo Chile says...

I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time?? Voodoo Chile
  • Score: -5

1:00pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bobs2302 says...

I think the worlds gone mad!!!
Incidents like this should be punished by the wru, never by a criminal court!!!
I feel some people who have commented are missing the point, most people believe there is a need for discipline on the rugby pitch and yes there was a need for Rhys to get punished. What is not understood is why he was singled out and given such a harsh sentence. Ian Evans received a 12 week ban for the incident in which he deliberately stamping on an opponent. Quoting the bbc sport web site

"The British and Irish Lions player pleaded guilty before a disciplinary hearing in Dublin on Thursday. Entry-level suspensions for stamping range from two to nine-plus weeks, with 52 weeks the maximum.Evans's incident with McCarthy involved at least two stamps which connected with the Irish lock's head and resulted in a serious facial wound".

Is this worse than a single punch??
I think the worlds gone mad!!! Incidents like this should be punished by the wru, never by a criminal court!!! I feel some people who have commented are missing the point, most people believe there is a need for discipline on the rugby pitch and yes there was a need for Rhys to get punished. What is not understood is why he was singled out and given such a harsh sentence. Ian Evans received a 12 week ban for the incident in which he deliberately stamping on an opponent. Quoting the bbc sport web site "The British and Irish Lions player pleaded guilty before a disciplinary hearing in Dublin on Thursday. Entry-level suspensions for stamping range from two to nine-plus weeks, with 52 weeks the maximum.Evans's incident with McCarthy involved at least two stamps which connected with the Irish lock's head and resulted in a serious facial wound". Is this worse than a single punch?? Bobs2302
  • Score: 33

1:06pm Fri 31 Jan 14

kelly e says...

A total travesty, another ridiculous example of a British justice system gone mad!!!! I have no doubt that at this weekends 6 nations there will be plenty of fights in the pitch by professional players what will only be tantamount to a red card! Just like it is every year...a boxer goes into a ring knowing their going to get their head smashed in because it's sport, a rugby player chooses to go on a rugby pitch knowing that with any full contact sport you're going to get hurt, and absolutely under no illusion that if you wind another player up to the point of rage ( very effective game tactic) you're going to get hurt!! I fear that if this is meant to set an example to the sporting world that violence shouldn't be tolerated, then I'm afraid this will be the end of the rugby game we have loved for so many generations
A total travesty, another ridiculous example of a British justice system gone mad!!!! I have no doubt that at this weekends 6 nations there will be plenty of fights in the pitch by professional players what will only be tantamount to a red card! Just like it is every year...a boxer goes into a ring knowing their going to get their head smashed in because it's sport, a rugby player chooses to go on a rugby pitch knowing that with any full contact sport you're going to get hurt, and absolutely under no illusion that if you wind another player up to the point of rage ( very effective game tactic) you're going to get hurt!! I fear that if this is meant to set an example to the sporting world that violence shouldn't be tolerated, then I'm afraid this will be the end of the rugby game we have loved for so many generations kelly e
  • Score: 22

1:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

A heavy blow causing a serious wound is a serious assault. If this happened in Cardiff high street the sentence would have been longer. The wound in this case is why he was charged. Nothing new about assaults in sport being regarded as criminal acts. Whether players are consistently charged is another matter. The idea that it's ok on the rugby pitch is tosh. The WRU should take action in addition to the criminal law not instead of it.
A heavy blow causing a serious wound is a serious assault. If this happened in Cardiff high street the sentence would have been longer. The wound in this case is why he was charged. Nothing new about assaults in sport being regarded as criminal acts. Whether players are consistently charged is another matter. The idea that it's ok on the rugby pitch is tosh. The WRU should take action in addition to the criminal law not instead of it. Woodgnome
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Rocco15 says...

Voodoo Chile wrote:
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of
I believe Rhys became involved when a Cardiff player slammed the Ball into his face causing the whole brawl.
[quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??[/p][/quote]I believe Rhys became involved when a Cardiff player slammed the Ball into his face causing the whole brawl. Rocco15
  • Score: 11

1:22pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Rus rage Smith says...

NakedDancer wrote:
vertidog wrote:
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes.

"sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law.

"of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged.

If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences.
You have clearly never played rugby before as everyone knows when in a punch up of over 30 men, the only thing you can do is defend yourself. its unfortunate that the boy rhys punched had injuries, but that could have happened to any of the players involved.
The fact is rhys didnt chase after the boy or repeatedly hit him! he threw a punch just the same as everyone else.
For all who knows rhys, Hes a tough guy who can look after himself, but he is and always has been a gentleman and would never have thrown the punch to cause serious damage. the sentence he has been given is extremely harsh!
[quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vertidog[/bold] wrote: Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response.[/p][/quote]"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes. "sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law. "of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged. If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences.[/p][/quote]You have clearly never played rugby before as everyone knows when in a punch up of over 30 men, the only thing you can do is defend yourself. its unfortunate that the boy rhys punched had injuries, but that could have happened to any of the players involved. The fact is rhys didnt chase after the boy or repeatedly hit him! he threw a punch just the same as everyone else. For all who knows rhys, Hes a tough guy who can look after himself, but he is and always has been a gentleman and would never have thrown the punch to cause serious damage. the sentence he has been given is extremely harsh! Rus rage Smith
  • Score: 41

1:24pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Dirtpages says...

I would never excuse any type of violence. However I have met mr Peebles on a few occasions and he is actually a nice guy.
As I have said violence is not my thing, however the nature of rugby is aggressive and if what I have read on this site about that match report; that mr Peebles had a rugby ball forced in his face which is assault in itself?! In that environment will cause a reaction. Whether right or wrong.
In terms of sentencing I feel that this is harsh. How many times have we seen a punch being thrown on tv and how many times does this end in a sentence, I suspect never.

Mr Peebles actions were not right, however maybe a suspended sentence , a lengthy ban from rugby and community service would have been a more sensible sentence.

If anything comes from this verdict is like many other parts of the juditional system is to be consistent and similar circumstances should hand out similar sentences. If not than this will be seen as a bit of a joke!!!
I would never excuse any type of violence. However I have met mr Peebles on a few occasions and he is actually a nice guy. As I have said violence is not my thing, however the nature of rugby is aggressive and if what I have read on this site about that match report; that mr Peebles had a rugby ball forced in his face which is assault in itself?! In that environment will cause a reaction. Whether right or wrong. In terms of sentencing I feel that this is harsh. How many times have we seen a punch being thrown on tv and how many times does this end in a sentence, I suspect never. Mr Peebles actions were not right, however maybe a suspended sentence , a lengthy ban from rugby and community service would have been a more sensible sentence. If anything comes from this verdict is like many other parts of the juditional system is to be consistent and similar circumstances should hand out similar sentences. If not than this will be seen as a bit of a joke!!! Dirtpages
  • Score: 19

1:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

sophie33 says...

At the end of the day he punched someone so hard they needed 28 stitches, nobody can say that is part of the game of rugby. during this brawl were any other players hospitalized ? This is not part of the game of rugby , Yes its a rough game and tempers do boil over and yes other people have been guilty of going too far, but that is no justification to turn a blind eye to this incident. If it was my son that was punched I would certainly want justice and if it was my son that threw the punch I would also be arguing his corner.. maybe he was singled out because the person he punched received the greatest injuries..
At the end of the day he punched someone so hard they needed 28 stitches, nobody can say that is part of the game of rugby. during this brawl were any other players hospitalized ? This is not part of the game of rugby , Yes its a rough game and tempers do boil over and yes other people have been guilty of going too far, but that is no justification to turn a blind eye to this incident. If it was my son that was punched I would certainly want justice and if it was my son that threw the punch I would also be arguing his corner.. maybe he was singled out because the person he punched received the greatest injuries.. sophie33
  • Score: -11

1:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

A.R. Gus says...

If the lad assaulted has made a complaint investigation and prosecution must follow, Rhys may be a nice lad but like the rest of us on or off the field serious assaults are unacceptable and players must take responsibility for their actions. If this was a footballer would get 3years ha!
If the lad assaulted has made a complaint investigation and prosecution must follow, Rhys may be a nice lad but like the rest of us on or off the field serious assaults are unacceptable and players must take responsibility for their actions. If this was a footballer would get 3years ha! A.R. Gus
  • Score: -1

1:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

meritho7 says...

Ha?!? Maybe Callum lewis should go and play football then !!! Non contact!!!
Ha?!? Maybe Callum lewis should go and play football then !!! Non contact!!! meritho7
  • Score: 13

1:54pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Beaverisbest says...

to the keyboard warriors, imagine the exact same happening to your son (not that I am related to Rhys in anyway) would you then be applauding the justice system? 30 man brawl, started by a player throwing a ball into Rhys' face, his reaction was to throw one punch in defence whilst others threw several, he gets a 12 months sentence. Would you honestly come out of court and say 'my son deserves his 12 month sentence for throwing that single punch'? I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't.
to the keyboard warriors, imagine the exact same happening to your son (not that I am related to Rhys in anyway) would you then be applauding the justice system? 30 man brawl, started by a player throwing a ball into Rhys' face, his reaction was to throw one punch in defence whilst others threw several, he gets a 12 months sentence. Would you honestly come out of court and say 'my son deserves his 12 month sentence for throwing that single punch'? I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't. Beaverisbest
  • Score: 21

2:23pm Fri 31 Jan 14

whatintheworld says...

it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.
it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR. whatintheworld
  • Score: -42

2:56pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Charles Street says...

Rugby is a tough sport and it is a a credit to the game that despite this discipline is largely maintained. There are often scuffles and 'handbags' but out and out brawling is relatively rare. Players must keep the aggression controlled and there is a responsibility on their clubs to maintain this discipline in play. Mr Peebles lost control in a volatile situation and in fairness to him admitted his offence. The severity of the punishment is up for debate biut an act like that could have resulted in permanent injury to someone and a clear message has been sent out to all. I think, as other posters have mentioned, there has been a failure at the club to maintain discipline and that this failure has in no small way led to this unfortunate incident. There have been others and the reputation of the club needs to be cleaned up. There is a difference between a hard side and a dirty side and that line has been crossed too often. This kind of thing is bad for the game as a whole so hopefully lessons have been learned by all concerned.
Rugby is a tough sport and it is a a credit to the game that despite this discipline is largely maintained. There are often scuffles and 'handbags' but out and out brawling is relatively rare. Players must keep the aggression controlled and there is a responsibility on their clubs to maintain this discipline in play. Mr Peebles lost control in a volatile situation and in fairness to him admitted his offence. The severity of the punishment is up for debate biut an act like that could have resulted in permanent injury to someone and a clear message has been sent out to all. I think, as other posters have mentioned, there has been a failure at the club to maintain discipline and that this failure has in no small way led to this unfortunate incident. There have been others and the reputation of the club needs to be cleaned up. There is a difference between a hard side and a dirty side and that line has been crossed too often. This kind of thing is bad for the game as a whole so hopefully lessons have been learned by all concerned. Charles Street
  • Score: 5

3:08pm Fri 31 Jan 14

NakedDancer says...

Rus rage Smith wrote:
NakedDancer wrote:
vertidog wrote:
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes.

"sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law.

"of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged.

If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences.
You have clearly never played rugby before as everyone knows when in a punch up of over 30 men, the only thing you can do is defend yourself. its unfortunate that the boy rhys punched had injuries, but that could have happened to any of the players involved.
The fact is rhys didnt chase after the boy or repeatedly hit him! he threw a punch just the same as everyone else.
For all who knows rhys, Hes a tough guy who can look after himself, but he is and always has been a gentleman and would never have thrown the punch to cause serious damage. the sentence he has been given is extremely harsh!
I've played at a very high level but thats irrelevant. Rhys didn't claim it was self defence and I'm sure his lawyer, the CPS and court considered whether it was self defence. If you assault and seriously injure someone you pay the price and its the same law on a rugby pitch as a pub brawl. It's irrelevant if you are a nice guy and didn't mean to cause the damage that you did. Thats the law.
[quote][p][bold]Rus rage Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vertidog[/bold] wrote: Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response.[/p][/quote]"Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of thuggery" - obviously yes. "sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play" - not a precedent as the law of assault has always been clear and plenty of rugby players have been charged and punished in the past. Rugby is not above the law. "of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury" - obviously thats why he was charged. If you want to argue others should have been charged in this game (or other matches) or the sentence was too harsh then maybe. However, if you assault someone you face the consequences.[/p][/quote]You have clearly never played rugby before as everyone knows when in a punch up of over 30 men, the only thing you can do is defend yourself. its unfortunate that the boy rhys punched had injuries, but that could have happened to any of the players involved. The fact is rhys didnt chase after the boy or repeatedly hit him! he threw a punch just the same as everyone else. For all who knows rhys, Hes a tough guy who can look after himself, but he is and always has been a gentleman and would never have thrown the punch to cause serious damage. the sentence he has been given is extremely harsh![/p][/quote]I've played at a very high level but thats irrelevant. Rhys didn't claim it was self defence and I'm sure his lawyer, the CPS and court considered whether it was self defence. If you assault and seriously injure someone you pay the price and its the same law on a rugby pitch as a pub brawl. It's irrelevant if you are a nice guy and didn't mean to cause the damage that you did. Thats the law. NakedDancer
  • Score: -5

3:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

DDDog1 says...

Woodgnome wrote:
A heavy blow causing a serious wound is a serious assault. If this happened in Cardiff high street the sentence would have been longer. The wound in this case is why he was charged. Nothing new about assaults in sport being regarded as criminal acts. Whether players are consistently charged is another matter. The idea that it's ok on the rugby pitch is tosh. The WRU should take action in addition to the criminal law not instead of it.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: A heavy blow causing a serious wound is a serious assault. If this happened in Cardiff high street the sentence would have been longer. The wound in this case is why he was charged. Nothing new about assaults in sport being regarded as criminal acts. Whether players are consistently charged is another matter. The idea that it's ok on the rugby pitch is tosh. The WRU should take action in addition to the criminal law not instead of it.[/p][/quote]Spot on DDDog1
  • Score: 4

3:37pm Fri 31 Jan 14

ljthom06 says...

A year for one punch in rugby, then you have boxing..............
........throw as many as you like, thats fine because its the sport.
A year for one punch in rugby, then you have boxing.............. ........throw as many as you like, thats fine because its the sport. ljthom06
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

kelly e wrote:
A total travesty, another ridiculous example of a British justice system gone mad!!!! I have no doubt that at this weekends 6 nations there will be plenty of fights in the pitch by professional players what will only be tantamount to a red card! Just like it is every year...a boxer goes into a ring knowing their going to get their head smashed in because it's sport, a rugby player chooses to go on a rugby pitch knowing that with any full contact sport you're going to get hurt, and absolutely under no illusion that if you wind another player up to the point of rage ( very effective game tactic) you're going to get hurt!! I fear that if this is meant to set an example to the sporting world that violence shouldn't be tolerated, then I'm afraid this will be the end of the rugby game we have loved for so many generations
Really ? this is not the 1930s. There is rarely a punch thrown at international or regional level because they are spotted by the referee, touch judge or citing officers and discouraged by coaches due to the consequences.

Every rugby player at every level knows they have a duty of care and that they will be in court if they go overboard. Plenty of players have been prosecuted and jailed for assault on the pitch over the years, this is nothing new.

Thankfully most players can control themselves and no-one goes into a rugby match with the expectation that they will be punched and seriously injured. That would indeed be the end of rugby if the players couldn't control themselves.
[quote][p][bold]kelly e[/bold] wrote: A total travesty, another ridiculous example of a British justice system gone mad!!!! I have no doubt that at this weekends 6 nations there will be plenty of fights in the pitch by professional players what will only be tantamount to a red card! Just like it is every year...a boxer goes into a ring knowing their going to get their head smashed in because it's sport, a rugby player chooses to go on a rugby pitch knowing that with any full contact sport you're going to get hurt, and absolutely under no illusion that if you wind another player up to the point of rage ( very effective game tactic) you're going to get hurt!! I fear that if this is meant to set an example to the sporting world that violence shouldn't be tolerated, then I'm afraid this will be the end of the rugby game we have loved for so many generations[/p][/quote]Really ? this is not the 1930s. There is rarely a punch thrown at international or regional level because they are spotted by the referee, touch judge or citing officers and discouraged by coaches due to the consequences. Every rugby player at every level knows they have a duty of care and that they will be in court if they go overboard. Plenty of players have been prosecuted and jailed for assault on the pitch over the years, this is nothing new. Thankfully most players can control themselves and no-one goes into a rugby match with the expectation that they will be punched and seriously injured. That would indeed be the end of rugby if the players couldn't control themselves. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 5

3:50pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

ljthom06 wrote:
A year for one punch in rugby, then you have boxing..............

........throw as many as you like, thats fine because its the sport.
Punching is legal in the sport of Boxing, it is illegal in the sport of Rugby. If you judo throw someone on their head in the sport of Boxing then that is not in the laws of Boxing and if someone was badly injured by the fall then the thrower could be prosecuted for assault.
[quote][p][bold]ljthom06[/bold] wrote: A year for one punch in rugby, then you have boxing.............. ........throw as many as you like, thats fine because its the sport.[/p][/quote]Punching is legal in the sport of Boxing, it is illegal in the sport of Rugby. If you judo throw someone on their head in the sport of Boxing then that is not in the laws of Boxing and if someone was badly injured by the fall then the thrower could be prosecuted for assault. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 6

3:55pm Fri 31 Jan 14

knuckledraggingpintswiller says...

What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it?

Let your bias through there, Argus.
What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it? Let your bias through there, Argus. knuckledraggingpintswiller
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Fri 31 Jan 14

knuckledraggingpintswiller says...

whatintheworld wrote:
it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.
Yes and if Peebles was 40 then the man would have been 20 years his junior.

Regardless of how events are interpreted, you don't have a point. Age doesn't come into it. They're both adults. End of.
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.[/p][/quote]Yes and if Peebles was 40 then the man would have been 20 years his junior. Regardless of how events are interpreted, you don't have a point. Age doesn't come into it. They're both adults. End of. knuckledraggingpintswiller
  • Score: 3

4:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

CynicalAndJaded says...

knuckledraggingpints
willer
wrote:
What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it?

Let your bias through there, Argus.
Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows.

On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches.
[quote][p][bold]knuckledraggingpints willer[/bold] wrote: What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it? Let your bias through there, Argus.[/p][/quote]Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows. On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches. CynicalAndJaded
  • Score: 2

4:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

sophie33 says...

I like your way of thinking Thomas O'Malley, succinct and to the point..
I like your way of thinking Thomas O'Malley, succinct and to the point.. sophie33
  • Score: 3

4:40pm Fri 31 Jan 14

knuckledraggingpintswiller says...

CynicalAndJaded wrote:
knuckledraggingpints

willer
wrote:
What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it?

Let your bias through there, Argus.
Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows.

On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches.
True. I think the point is worth restating; how can any punch not be an assault?

On this precedent, by this time next year half the UK's rugby players will be put through court hearings. I can't wait to help pay for all that.
[quote][p][bold]CynicalAndJaded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckledraggingpints willer[/bold] wrote: What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it? Let your bias through there, Argus.[/p][/quote]Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows. On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches.[/p][/quote]True. I think the point is worth restating; how can any punch not be an assault? On this precedent, by this time next year half the UK's rugby players will be put through court hearings. I can't wait to help pay for all that. knuckledraggingpintswiller
  • Score: -6

4:59pm Fri 31 Jan 14

rugbyfan199 says...

The law only intervenes in situations such as this when someone presses charges. The reason not every player is prosecuted when there is a brawl is because the other players don't report it. There have been a number of incidents resulting in worse injuries than this in the past, it is up to the player injured whether to report it and pursue the incident further. The Court and Police do not randomly get involved when they feel like it. If the Court is involved they pass a sentence for the nature of the assault, whether it was caused on a rugby pitch or not so I think blaming the justice system are a bit ill informed.
A player knows what is likely to happen within the scope of a game of rugby, and whilst they do not consent to be assaulted, it is a consequence of the game they are aware of when they step on the pitch, hence why many do not take the assault further and report it.
The law only intervenes in situations such as this when someone presses charges. The reason not every player is prosecuted when there is a brawl is because the other players don't report it. There have been a number of incidents resulting in worse injuries than this in the past, it is up to the player injured whether to report it and pursue the incident further. The Court and Police do not randomly get involved when they feel like it. If the Court is involved they pass a sentence for the nature of the assault, whether it was caused on a rugby pitch or not so I think blaming the justice system are a bit ill informed. A player knows what is likely to happen within the scope of a game of rugby, and whilst they do not consent to be assaulted, it is a consequence of the game they are aware of when they step on the pitch, hence why many do not take the assault further and report it. rugbyfan199
  • Score: 8

5:02pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

CynicalAndJaded wrote:
knuckledraggingpints

willer
wrote:
What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it?

Let your bias through there, Argus.
Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows.

On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches.
Any punch is an assault in law (with some complicated exceptions like Boxing where competitors 'agree' to be punched). The laws of rugby address the offence and the Police largely accept that this is enough for low level incidents not worth their attention. However, the police and CPS will prosecute (and always have) if the assault is deemed more serious, or if anyone complains.
[quote][p][bold]CynicalAndJaded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckledraggingpints willer[/bold] wrote: What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it? Let your bias through there, Argus.[/p][/quote]Yes, agreed. It wasn't necessary to add this information. Most people would have assumed he was a big lad anyway, like most back rows. On the wider picture, is the law now going to intervene every time there is a brawl on the pitch, and at every level right up to international? After all, any punch is an assault, regardless of whether it results in stitches.[/p][/quote]Any punch is an assault in law (with some complicated exceptions like Boxing where competitors 'agree' to be punched). The laws of rugby address the offence and the Police largely accept that this is enough for low level incidents not worth their attention. However, the police and CPS will prosecute (and always have) if the assault is deemed more serious, or if anyone complains. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 8

5:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

FrankiesDad says...

I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson. FrankiesDad
  • Score: -7

5:53pm Fri 31 Jan 14

A.R. Gus says...

May explain a custodial sentence due to previous convictions.
May explain a custodial sentence due to previous convictions. A.R. Gus
  • Score: 3

6:08pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

Beaverisbest wrote:
to the keyboard warriors, imagine the exact same happening to your son (not that I am related to Rhys in anyway) would you then be applauding the justice system? 30 man brawl, started by a player throwing a ball into Rhys' face, his reaction was to throw one punch in defence whilst others threw several, he gets a 12 months sentence. Would you honestly come out of court and say 'my son deserves his 12 month sentence for throwing that single punch'? I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't.
What about the victim's mum and dad? What if you were them?
[quote][p][bold]Beaverisbest[/bold] wrote: to the keyboard warriors, imagine the exact same happening to your son (not that I am related to Rhys in anyway) would you then be applauding the justice system? 30 man brawl, started by a player throwing a ball into Rhys' face, his reaction was to throw one punch in defence whilst others threw several, he gets a 12 months sentence. Would you honestly come out of court and say 'my son deserves his 12 month sentence for throwing that single punch'? I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't.[/p][/quote]What about the victim's mum and dad? What if you were them? Woodgnome
  • Score: 12

6:09pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Kls1981 says...

My husband has received many injuries over the years, including a severely broken hand and twisted fingers which resulted in surgery and time off work. That was the result of an opponent stamping repeatedly on his hand.... Many times he has come home with black eyes, broken nose etc etc. his choice from a young age was to play the sport he loves. Being 31 and family and career orientated now he has given it up. In the years since I've known him I have nursed him, spent hours at the hospital and changed dressings and all because, in his words 'that's what rugby is, if your not tough enough to take it your not tough enough for the game'
While I do not like this, condone violence and would be mortified if my sons were injured in this way unfortunately you put 30 testosterone hot blooded men on a pitch tempers will explode.. It's natural and has always been the case.... Seriously awful sentence for Rhys and it's a shame he was made an example of.
My husband has received many injuries over the years, including a severely broken hand and twisted fingers which resulted in surgery and time off work. That was the result of an opponent stamping repeatedly on his hand.... Many times he has come home with black eyes, broken nose etc etc. his choice from a young age was to play the sport he loves. Being 31 and family and career orientated now he has given it up. In the years since I've known him I have nursed him, spent hours at the hospital and changed dressings and all because, in his words 'that's what rugby is, if your not tough enough to take it your not tough enough for the game' While I do not like this, condone violence and would be mortified if my sons were injured in this way unfortunately you put 30 testosterone hot blooded men on a pitch tempers will explode.. It's natural and has always been the case.... Seriously awful sentence for Rhys and it's a shame he was made an example of. Kls1981
  • Score: 15

6:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

Kls1981 wrote:
My husband has received many injuries over the years, including a severely broken hand and twisted fingers which resulted in surgery and time off work. That was the result of an opponent stamping repeatedly on his hand.... Many times he has come home with black eyes, broken nose etc etc. his choice from a young age was to play the sport he loves. Being 31 and family and career orientated now he has given it up. In the years since I've known him I have nursed him, spent hours at the hospital and changed dressings and all because, in his words 'that's what rugby is, if your not tough enough to take it your not tough enough for the game'
While I do not like this, condone violence and would be mortified if my sons were injured in this way unfortunately you put 30 testosterone hot blooded men on a pitch tempers will explode.. It's natural and has always been the case.... Seriously awful sentence for Rhys and it's a shame he was made an example of.
With respect, you are missing the point. Rugby is a tough physical contact sport and within the laws of the game many injuries occur. These are tough guys and the macho element means some may even accept injuries outside of the laws of the game. However no player agrees to serious injury as a result of a punch and it would make no difference if they did because the law of the land is its assault, its irrelevant if its on a rugby pitch. Its not inevitable that tempers will explode because players mostly control themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Kls1981[/bold] wrote: My husband has received many injuries over the years, including a severely broken hand and twisted fingers which resulted in surgery and time off work. That was the result of an opponent stamping repeatedly on his hand.... Many times he has come home with black eyes, broken nose etc etc. his choice from a young age was to play the sport he loves. Being 31 and family and career orientated now he has given it up. In the years since I've known him I have nursed him, spent hours at the hospital and changed dressings and all because, in his words 'that's what rugby is, if your not tough enough to take it your not tough enough for the game' While I do not like this, condone violence and would be mortified if my sons were injured in this way unfortunately you put 30 testosterone hot blooded men on a pitch tempers will explode.. It's natural and has always been the case.... Seriously awful sentence for Rhys and it's a shame he was made an example of.[/p][/quote]With respect, you are missing the point. Rugby is a tough physical contact sport and within the laws of the game many injuries occur. These are tough guys and the macho element means some may even accept injuries outside of the laws of the game. However no player agrees to serious injury as a result of a punch and it would make no difference if they did because the law of the land is its assault, its irrelevant if its on a rugby pitch. Its not inevitable that tempers will explode because players mostly control themselves. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 5

6:56pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Truthbtold2013 says...

FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened
[quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened Truthbtold2013
  • Score: -6

7:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bobs2302 says...

FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
Really?? An unprovoked attack?? You only have to see the level of support Rhys is getting to realise what a good person he is!!!

And to A.R. Gus... He has no previous convictions!!!

Whether anybody agrees or disagrees, the truth is Rhys has an amazing family and loads of good friends... And these are the opinions that matter!!!
[quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]Really?? An unprovoked attack?? You only have to see the level of support Rhys is getting to realise what a good person he is!!! And to A.R. Gus... He has no previous convictions!!! Whether anybody agrees or disagrees, the truth is Rhys has an amazing family and loads of good friends... And these are the opinions that matter!!! Bobs2302
  • Score: 9

7:17pm Fri 31 Jan 14

scottygbc says...

I know this man really well and he is a gentle giant. All the negative comments on here are unreal. this is a game of rugby where adrenalin takes over the body and no doubt tomorrow in the internationals punches are going to be thrown ! This should have never have gone this far what happens on the pitch should stay on the pitch ! What happened to the days when you had to be a man to play a mans sport ? The next thing will be boxers being sent to jail for breaking an opponents noes or something. im sure the player who got punched would have thrown a few punches in his time. Rhys was just unlucky he caught the guy in the wrong place and it done some damage. Plus the guys back playing only 2 months after ??? There are much bigger criminals out there who do much worse and get a slap on the wrist. its Rhys's first offence and he gets sent to prison 1 word JOKE !
I know this man really well and he is a gentle giant. All the negative comments on here are unreal. this is a game of rugby where adrenalin takes over the body and no doubt tomorrow in the internationals punches are going to be thrown ! This should have never have gone this far what happens on the pitch should stay on the pitch ! What happened to the days when you had to be a man to play a mans sport ? The next thing will be boxers being sent to jail for breaking an opponents noes or something. im sure the player who got punched would have thrown a few punches in his time. Rhys was just unlucky he caught the guy in the wrong place and it done some damage. Plus the guys back playing only 2 months after ??? There are much bigger criminals out there who do much worse and get a slap on the wrist. its Rhys's first offence and he gets sent to prison 1 word JOKE ! scottygbc
  • Score: 10

7:29pm Fri 31 Jan 14

scottygbc says...

whatintheworld wrote:
it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.
Yeah he may be 10 Years younger but he's playing a mans sport he's not a netball player ! Lets see if by the time he gets to 30 he never gets red carded for throwing a punch is it ???
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.[/p][/quote]Yeah he may be 10 Years younger but he's playing a mans sport he's not a netball player ! Lets see if by the time he gets to 30 he never gets red carded for throwing a punch is it ??? scottygbc
  • Score: 7

7:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

scottygbc says...

Truthbtold2013 wrote:
FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened
I really don't believe an unprovoked attack obviously your sons going to tell you that ??
[quote][p][bold]Truthbtold2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened[/p][/quote]I really don't believe an unprovoked attack obviously your sons going to tell you that ?? scottygbc
  • Score: 11

7:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

scottygbc says...

Truthbtold2013 wrote:
FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened
I really don't believe an unprovoked attack obviously your sons going to tell you that ??
[quote][p][bold]Truthbtold2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened[/p][/quote]I really don't believe an unprovoked attack obviously your sons going to tell you that ?? scottygbc
  • Score: 10

8:01pm Fri 31 Jan 14

taffymark says...

Doesn't anyone remember that Duncan McRae nearly kills Ronan O'Gara incident on the British and Irish Lions tour in 2001. Mcrae was sent off and banned for seven weeks...Work that one out Woodgnome!
Doesn't anyone remember that Duncan McRae nearly kills Ronan O'Gara incident on the British and Irish Lions tour in 2001. Mcrae was sent off and banned for seven weeks...Work that one out Woodgnome! taffymark
  • Score: 8

8:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

SophieWatkins says...

Voodoo Chile wrote:
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of
As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour.
In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones.
What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage.
[quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??[/p][/quote]As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour. In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones. What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage. SophieWatkins
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Fri 31 Jan 14

jonesyofgwent says...

Woodgnome wrote:
Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye.
maybe you should tell this to the old school players like the pontypool front row, Derek Quinnell and the the rest of the lions that went on that tour in the early 70''s. No smoke without fire.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye.[/p][/quote]maybe you should tell this to the old school players like the pontypool front row, Derek Quinnell and the the rest of the lions that went on that tour in the early 70''s. No smoke without fire. jonesyofgwent
  • Score: -1

8:46pm Fri 31 Jan 14

SophieWatkins says...

knuckledraggingpints
willer
wrote:
What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it?

Let your bias through there, Argus.
Doesn't matter on size or age as the other player was a front row forward himself so hardly anorexic!!
[quote][p][bold]knuckledraggingpints willer[/bold] wrote: What has Peebles' weight and height got to do with it? Let your bias through there, Argus.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter on size or age as the other player was a front row forward himself so hardly anorexic!! SophieWatkins
  • Score: 5

8:50pm Fri 31 Jan 14

SophieWatkins says...

Bobs2302 wrote:
FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
Really?? An unprovoked attack?? You only have to see the level of support Rhys is getting to realise what a good person he is!!!

And to A.R. Gus... He has no previous convictions!!!

Whether anybody agrees or disagrees, the truth is Rhys has an amazing family and loads of good friends... And these are the opinions that matter!!!
I am not a family member or a friend but I know Rhys through rugby and he does appear to be a "gentle giant" - in cases where others have mentioned an assault from him I am sure that there is always 2 sides to any story.
[quote][p][bold]Bobs2302[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]Really?? An unprovoked attack?? You only have to see the level of support Rhys is getting to realise what a good person he is!!! And to A.R. Gus... He has no previous convictions!!! Whether anybody agrees or disagrees, the truth is Rhys has an amazing family and loads of good friends... And these are the opinions that matter!!![/p][/quote]I am not a family member or a friend but I know Rhys through rugby and he does appear to be a "gentle giant" - in cases where others have mentioned an assault from him I am sure that there is always 2 sides to any story. SophieWatkins
  • Score: 6

9:06pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Voodoo Chile says...

SophieWatkins wrote:
Voodoo Chile wrote:
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of
As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour.
In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones.
What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage.
I am perfectly aware that most of yellow cards given for professional fouls. However on each occasion I have watched my team, Pontypridd, play cross keys the matches have been subject to thuggish behaviour by keys players. Former play Rob Nash and the Hodge brothers to name a few have no interest in rugby but only niggle and fight with opposition players.

Peebles was not playing at the pint he got involved, correct me if I'm wrong. I cannot see how you exaggerate your injuries as a result of a punch as surely the injuries would be visible???

I agree the sentence maybe harsh but if this happened in the street then this conversation would not be had!!
[quote][p][bold]SophieWatkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??[/p][/quote]As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour. In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones. What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage.[/p][/quote]I am perfectly aware that most of yellow cards given for professional fouls. However on each occasion I have watched my team, Pontypridd, play cross keys the matches have been subject to thuggish behaviour by keys players. Former play Rob Nash and the Hodge brothers to name a few have no interest in rugby but only niggle and fight with opposition players. Peebles was not playing at the pint he got involved, correct me if I'm wrong. I cannot see how you exaggerate your injuries as a result of a punch as surely the injuries would be visible??? I agree the sentence maybe harsh but if this happened in the street then this conversation would not be had!! Voodoo Chile
  • Score: -5

10:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sapper2171 says...

Voodoo Chile wrote:
SophieWatkins wrote:
Voodoo Chile wrote:
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour.
In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones.
What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victimPeebles was playing at the time. Please get your facts right. As for Rob Nash being a thug funny how Coventry signed him and made him their skipper. Not really something you would expect from a thug !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SophieWatkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??[/p][/quote]As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour. In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones. What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victimPeebles was playing at the time. Please get your facts right. As for Rob Nash being a thug funny how Coventry signed him and made him their skipper. Not really something you would expect from a thug !!!! Sapper2171
  • Score: 2

10:31pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Now_we_go says...

Unbelievable some of the comments on here!!! People are condoning Peebles' actions because someone stuck a rugby ball in his face????!!!! If that was your child and someone 'stuck a rugby ball in their face' and that player beat him so bad he ripped his face open thus requiring 28 stitches in a wound would you condone it then????

People's comments on here make me want to lose faith in the human race and quite frankly I know facts, after certain injuries that have happened at Pandy Park over the last few years to the opposition they should put a cage around the pitch and get ESPN to take it from there....Gavin Qunnell anyone??? That young promosing player lost an eye!!! When I hear what happened there I was nearly sick!
Unbelievable some of the comments on here!!! People are condoning Peebles' actions because someone stuck a rugby ball in his face????!!!! If that was your child and someone 'stuck a rugby ball in their face' and that player beat him so bad he ripped his face open thus requiring 28 stitches in a wound would you condone it then???? People's comments on here make me want to lose faith in the human race and quite frankly I know facts, after certain injuries that have happened at Pandy Park over the last few years to the opposition they should put a cage around the pitch and get ESPN to take it from there....Gavin Qunnell anyone??? That young promosing player lost an eye!!! When I hear what happened there I was nearly sick! Now_we_go
  • Score: -4

10:41pm Fri 31 Jan 14

SophieWatkins says...

Voodoo Chile wrote:
SophieWatkins wrote:
Voodoo Chile wrote:
I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years.

I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of
As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour.
In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones.
What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage.
I am perfectly aware that most of yellow cards given for professional fouls. However on each occasion I have watched my team, Pontypridd, play cross keys the matches have been subject to thuggish behaviour by keys players. Former play Rob Nash and the Hodge brothers to name a few have no interest in rugby but only niggle and fight with opposition players.

Peebles was not playing at the pint he got involved, correct me if I'm wrong. I cannot see how you exaggerate your injuries as a result of a punch as surely the injuries would be visible???

I agree the sentence maybe harsh but if this happened in the street then this conversation would not be had!!
Again, as such an avid supporter, you would be aware, if not from watching the games but from reading match reports, that the majority of yellow cards given to the Hodge brothers as well as Nash when he was at the club were due to rugby fouls and not thuggish behaviour.
Having watched teams play Pontypridd over the last 25+ years I can only say that Pontypridd have certainly had their fair share of thuggish players and the only player I know that was banned sine die - as a matter of fact I can vividly remember a Newport v Pontypridd game when the Newport full back was knocked out cold by a punch from behind. Before judging other teams perhaps you realise that your own players are no angels.
If not exaggerating - how would the need for stitches jeopardise a rugby career?
[quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SophieWatkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voodoo Chile[/bold] wrote: I am an avid watcher of Premiership rugby and have been for many years. I am a bit surprised of teh sentence but not the team, Cross Keys have gotten a reputation of a bunch of thugs over the last few seasons and this is backed up by the num,ber of [players they get yellow and red carded. I agree there is no place for this in any sport and why did he get involved when he wasn't even on teh pitch at the time??[/p][/quote]As such an avid supporter of Premiership rugby shouldn't you actually be more aware of the fact that the majority of yellow cards are more due to the case of professional fouls and not thuggish behaviour. As a CrossKeys supporter I would categorically deny that over the last couple of years our players have gotten a reputation for thuggish behaviour. In the case of Rhys Peebles is it absolutely disgusting that he has been handed a 12-month sentence for punching an opposite player whilst on a rugby pitch. I do not condone violence on the pitch in any sport but emotions do run high and all players in all sport should be fully aware that these things do happen and there can be injuries whether it involves wounds and stitches or breaking of bones. What the majority of people commenting on this matter seem to be forgetting is that the "victim" in this case was also involved in the 30-man brawl and was willing to punch anyone in front of him. He was unlucky to have been punched but at the end of the day was also in a position to have caused the same injury to an opposing player. The player in question made an exaggeration of his injury and the effect it would have on his rugby career and yet he has been back playing for a while having suffered absolutely no long-term damage.[/p][/quote]I am perfectly aware that most of yellow cards given for professional fouls. However on each occasion I have watched my team, Pontypridd, play cross keys the matches have been subject to thuggish behaviour by keys players. Former play Rob Nash and the Hodge brothers to name a few have no interest in rugby but only niggle and fight with opposition players. Peebles was not playing at the pint he got involved, correct me if I'm wrong. I cannot see how you exaggerate your injuries as a result of a punch as surely the injuries would be visible??? I agree the sentence maybe harsh but if this happened in the street then this conversation would not be had!![/p][/quote]Again, as such an avid supporter, you would be aware, if not from watching the games but from reading match reports, that the majority of yellow cards given to the Hodge brothers as well as Nash when he was at the club were due to rugby fouls and not thuggish behaviour. Having watched teams play Pontypridd over the last 25+ years I can only say that Pontypridd have certainly had their fair share of thuggish players and the only player I know that was banned sine die - as a matter of fact I can vividly remember a Newport v Pontypridd game when the Newport full back was knocked out cold by a punch from behind. Before judging other teams perhaps you realise that your own players are no angels. If not exaggerating - how would the need for stitches jeopardise a rugby career? SophieWatkins
  • Score: -1

10:44pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sapper2171 says...

Get your facts straight. "Beat him up so badly" it was 1 punch. As for Gavin Quinnell. That was proved as an accident. Plain and simple. How ever horrendous the injury was it was an accident.
Get your facts straight. "Beat him up so badly" it was 1 punch. As for Gavin Quinnell. That was proved as an accident. Plain and simple. How ever horrendous the injury was it was an accident. Sapper2171
  • Score: 0

10:59pm Fri 31 Jan 14

SophieWatkins says...

Now_we_go wrote:
Unbelievable some of the comments on here!!! People are condoning Peebles' actions because someone stuck a rugby ball in his face????!!!! If that was your child and someone 'stuck a rugby ball in their face' and that player beat him so bad he ripped his face open thus requiring 28 stitches in a wound would you condone it then????

People's comments on here make me want to lose faith in the human race and quite frankly I know facts, after certain injuries that have happened at Pandy Park over the last few years to the opposition they should put a cage around the pitch and get ESPN to take it from there....Gavin Qunnell anyone??? That young promosing player lost an eye!!! When I hear what happened there I was nearly sick!
Can I please make you aware that the single punch from Rhys Peebles, and NOT a beating, was not from having a ball pushed in his face - the Cardiff captain, who had already been yellow carded in the game, threw the ball at full force in to Peebles face and from that a 30-man brawl ensued, in which the Cardiff player was involved.
With regard to the Quinnell incident, yes it was very sad that he lost the sight in his eye but it was in a standard ruck and no prosecution could ever be brought against any player because there was nothing suspicious to report unlike the ruck in which Ian Evans was involved just a few weeks ago - the Irish player then was extremely lucky to not lose an eye. If you want to carry on would you prosecute Garin Jenkins for breaking the neck of Gwyn Jones?
Before making such sweeping comments about incidents you obviously have no knowledge of would recommend gaining all relevant facts.
[quote][p][bold]Now_we_go[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable some of the comments on here!!! People are condoning Peebles' actions because someone stuck a rugby ball in his face????!!!! If that was your child and someone 'stuck a rugby ball in their face' and that player beat him so bad he ripped his face open thus requiring 28 stitches in a wound would you condone it then???? People's comments on here make me want to lose faith in the human race and quite frankly I know facts, after certain injuries that have happened at Pandy Park over the last few years to the opposition they should put a cage around the pitch and get ESPN to take it from there....Gavin Qunnell anyone??? That young promosing player lost an eye!!! When I hear what happened there I was nearly sick![/p][/quote]Can I please make you aware that the single punch from Rhys Peebles, and NOT a beating, was not from having a ball pushed in his face - the Cardiff captain, who had already been yellow carded in the game, threw the ball at full force in to Peebles face and from that a 30-man brawl ensued, in which the Cardiff player was involved. With regard to the Quinnell incident, yes it was very sad that he lost the sight in his eye but it was in a standard ruck and no prosecution could ever be brought against any player because there was nothing suspicious to report unlike the ruck in which Ian Evans was involved just a few weeks ago - the Irish player then was extremely lucky to not lose an eye. If you want to carry on would you prosecute Garin Jenkins for breaking the neck of Gwyn Jones? Before making such sweeping comments about incidents you obviously have no knowledge of would recommend gaining all relevant facts. SophieWatkins
  • Score: 6

11:24pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Propmolb123 says...

Having read many of the varied posts I will try to condense my opinion and summarize as best as possible whilst trying to remain impartial and mindful that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly do not expect everyone to subscribe to mine.

Do I condone the unfortunate violence that has led to the injuries sustained from one punch? No, the physicality within the game itself should always be enough of a platform to vent frustration/aggressi
on however being a current rugby player myself I acknowledge the reality is that regrettably this is not always the case .

Should there be a consequence for Rhys actions? Yes, absolutely this behavior can never become the "Norm" and I totally understand and agree that every effort should be made to minimize violent episodes between players that can lead to a nasty injury.

Is Rhys a danger to the public where a custodial sentence is the only option? Definitely not, I am certain that we can all think of numerous characters within society more deserving to be locked away who prey on the most vulnerable in society.

Would community service, fine and or a ban suffice? Yes I firmly believe that this would have been proportionate and would serve as enough of deterrent and clear message not only to Rhys but to others who partake in the game. (Taking into account injuries were NOT career threatening as the lad played as recent as this evening)

Finally I strongly feel that a precedence has now been set and a significant line in the sand has been drawn.
My fear that this case may well indeed be used as a reference point for "American style" culture of rugby players being sued and counter sued for personal injury claims (Whilst not in any way trivializing the injuries sustained in this case)
Having read many of the varied posts I will try to condense my opinion and summarize as best as possible whilst trying to remain impartial and mindful that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly do not expect everyone to subscribe to mine. Do I condone the unfortunate violence that has led to the injuries sustained from one punch? No, the physicality within the game itself should always be enough of a platform to vent frustration/aggressi on however being a current rugby player myself I acknowledge the reality is that regrettably this is not always the case . Should there be a consequence for Rhys actions? Yes, absolutely this behavior can never become the "Norm" and I totally understand and agree that every effort should be made to minimize violent episodes between players that can lead to a nasty injury. Is Rhys a danger to the public where a custodial sentence is the only option? Definitely not, I am certain that we can all think of numerous characters within society more deserving to be locked away who prey on the most vulnerable in society. Would community service, fine and or a ban suffice? Yes I firmly believe that this would have been proportionate and would serve as enough of deterrent and clear message not only to Rhys but to others who partake in the game. (Taking into account injuries were NOT career threatening as the lad played as recent as this evening) Finally I strongly feel that a precedence has now been set and a significant line in the sand has been drawn. My fear that this case may well indeed be used as a reference point for "American style" culture of rugby players being sued and counter sued for personal injury claims (Whilst not in any way trivializing the injuries sustained in this case) Propmolb123
  • Score: 12

11:32pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Insider guy says...

Hey voodoo chile i think you should read this again http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/sport/rugby
-union-pontypridd-fa
ce-expulsion-after-b
arroom-brawl-1239525
.html
Hey voodoo chile i think you should read this again http://www.independe nt.co.uk/sport/rugby -union-pontypridd-fa ce-expulsion-after-b arroom-brawl-1239525 .html Insider guy
  • Score: -2

11:35pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Now_we_go says...

Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way.
Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way. Now_we_go
  • Score: -13

11:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Now_we_go says...

Insider guy wrote:
Hey voodoo chile i think you should read this again http://www.independe

nt.co.uk/sport/rugby

-union-pontypridd-fa

ce-expulsion-after-b

arroom-brawl-1239525

.html
Haha well done Insider guy! Posting a link from an incident from 17 years ago hahahahah! Times have moved on since then. As you should know being a Keys supporter.
[quote][p][bold]Insider guy[/bold] wrote: Hey voodoo chile i think you should read this again http://www.independe nt.co.uk/sport/rugby -union-pontypridd-fa ce-expulsion-after-b arroom-brawl-1239525 .html[/p][/quote]Haha well done Insider guy! Posting a link from an incident from 17 years ago hahahahah! Times have moved on since then. As you should know being a Keys supporter. Now_we_go
  • Score: 0

1:02am Sat 1 Feb 14

SophieWatkins says...

Now_we_go wrote:
Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way.
It would appear that you won't name names as you wouldn't know any to name. Nobody who has commented on this incident, including those who have said they know Rhys Peebles, have condoned his actions but they have shown dismay at the resulting sentence against him.
Funny how the person you know within Keys is close to the action that they seem to be the only person involved within the club to know any different to the outcome of the incident with Quinnell - I know for a fact that people who have seen the video evidence of the incident were at a loss to understand how anyone could have involved the police.
If Keys weren't playing rugby they wouldn't be fourth in the Premiership at the moment - maybe if you watched a game or two at Pandy Park you would be able to see for yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Now_we_go[/bold] wrote: Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way.[/p][/quote]It would appear that you won't name names as you wouldn't know any to name. Nobody who has commented on this incident, including those who have said they know Rhys Peebles, have condoned his actions but they have shown dismay at the resulting sentence against him. Funny how the person you know within Keys is close to the action that they seem to be the only person involved within the club to know any different to the outcome of the incident with Quinnell - I know for a fact that people who have seen the video evidence of the incident were at a loss to understand how anyone could have involved the police. If Keys weren't playing rugby they wouldn't be fourth in the Premiership at the moment - maybe if you watched a game or two at Pandy Park you would be able to see for yourself. SophieWatkins
  • Score: 2

1:50am Sat 1 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

Now_we_go
Voodoo chile
ive actually followed crosskeys for over 30 years and other members of my family a lot longer, and I can tell you we've been beaten and bullied for many of them.All of a sudden little crosskeys stand up fot themselves and you pair call it thuggery!! Dont think so! Your team pontypridd so innocent, if I were you I would have a little think about that one!!
Back to the incident in question, and I was there to witness the disgraceful scenes at the end, but I will say that all through the game there was one man continually provoking and winding crosskeys players up(namely ryan harford ex ponty),something he is renowned for,but that apart, rhys peebles is a good hard player who gets as much as he gives and , in my opinion is very unlucky to get the sentence he got.Perhaps, if he didnt play for cardiff and wales under 20's who knows.
Now_we_go Voodoo chile ive actually followed crosskeys for over 30 years and other members of my family a lot longer, and I can tell you we've been beaten and bullied for many of them.All of a sudden little crosskeys stand up fot themselves and you pair call it thuggery!! Dont think so! Your team pontypridd so innocent, if I were you I would have a little think about that one!! Back to the incident in question, and I was there to witness the disgraceful scenes at the end, but I will say that all through the game there was one man continually provoking and winding crosskeys players up(namely ryan harford ex ponty),something he is renowned for,but that apart, rhys peebles is a good hard player who gets as much as he gives and , in my opinion is very unlucky to get the sentence he got.Perhaps, if he didnt play for cardiff and wales under 20's who knows. davies_c14
  • Score: 4

1:58am Sat 1 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

At the end of the post I meant to say ;
If the player unfortunatley injured didnt play for cardiff or wales under 20's then who knows!!!!!! Maybe no courtcase.
At the end of the post I meant to say ; If the player unfortunatley injured didnt play for cardiff or wales under 20's then who knows!!!!!! Maybe no courtcase. davies_c14
  • Score: 6

2:53am Sat 1 Feb 14

jimmysmith says...

Boooosh wrote:
Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time!
of course hes been tucked up .if he had been playing for a top english or welsh side it would never had got to court . and as it was only a punch its a way way over the top sentence i hope he appeals
[quote][p][bold]Boooosh[/bold] wrote: Should never have gone this far. what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. standard rules of rugby. 30 men fighting and Rhys is the only one sentenced?! Looks like he's been tucked up big time![/p][/quote]of course hes been tucked up .if he had been playing for a top english or welsh side it would never had got to court . and as it was only a punch its a way way over the top sentence i hope he appeals jimmysmith
  • Score: 7

2:56am Sat 1 Feb 14

jimmysmith says...

Truthbtold2013 wrote:
Booooosh you talk a lot of rubbish so if this punch caused more damage you believe that it should still as you say what happens in the pitch stays on the pitch I hope you get 28 stitches and then see what you say
if it had happened to me on the field from a punch in a punch up i was involved in then tough luck .i had my front teeth punched out on abertillery park in the 80s .no big deal a couple of pints and dentists on monday morning .its a mans game at the end of the day
[quote][p][bold]Truthbtold2013[/bold] wrote: Booooosh you talk a lot of rubbish so if this punch caused more damage you believe that it should still as you say what happens in the pitch stays on the pitch I hope you get 28 stitches and then see what you say[/p][/quote]if it had happened to me on the field from a punch in a punch up i was involved in then tough luck .i had my front teeth punched out on abertillery park in the 80s .no big deal a couple of pints and dentists on monday morning .its a mans game at the end of the day jimmysmith
  • Score: 8

8:13am Sat 1 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

jonesyofgwent wrote:
Woodgnome wrote:
Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye.
maybe you should tell this to the old school players like the pontypool front row, Derek Quinnell and the the rest of the lions that went on that tour in the early 70''s. No smoke without fire.
Distinguish between robust, sporting play and thuggery when not in play. I chose the word thuggery carefully and that's what it was.
[quote][p][bold]jonesyofgwent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: Thuggery on or off the pitch should be condemned. "Standard rules of rugby" my eye.[/p][/quote]maybe you should tell this to the old school players like the pontypool front row, Derek Quinnell and the the rest of the lions that went on that tour in the early 70''s. No smoke without fire.[/p][/quote]Distinguish between robust, sporting play and thuggery when not in play. I chose the word thuggery carefully and that's what it was. Woodgnome
  • Score: -4

9:23am Sat 1 Feb 14

Cwmsteve says...

Would be good to hear from Cross Keys and not condone the act of thuggery!
Would be good to hear from Cross Keys and not condone the act of thuggery! Cwmsteve
  • Score: 0

10:23am Sat 1 Feb 14

ValleyBoyo84 says...

There are so many pathetic pointless comments being made here by seemingly clueless clowns I have given in and feel the need to add my points.
1. People (namely Now_we_go) quoting the Quinnell incident. This has been proved to be a tragic accident it has no relation to this what so ever. Maybe sometimes not even a families name or reputation can stop the truth from prevailing. The 2 more famous Quinnell brothers, particularly Craig were not exactly angels in their playing days were they. Perhaps you could ask your 'someone close to the action' why nothing was done during the game if they knew something had gone on. There was simply no reaction from anyone on the pitch from either side!
2. People have quoted Keys as being thuggish and only needing to look at their disciplinary record, just how many of these yellow or red cards several of you talk of were related to 'thuggish' behaviour, perhaps someone could enlighten me, if you know so much.
3. The Cross Keys supporters commenting on this, myself included are not condoning what Rhys has done but are defending their clubs reputation and also expressing their opinion that the sentence is way over the top.
4. The Cardiff v Cross Keys fixture was a particularly bad tempered affair and the brawl at the end of the game, was sadly always likely to happen given the lack of control shown by the match officials during several other 'dust-ups'.
5. When the incident was first bought to light by the argus, who continue to do all they can to run other clubs down, aside from everyone's friends from the big 'city', a tweet sent by the victim was quoted. Funny how the argus failed to mention this was a tweet sent in reply to another present Keys player who simply enquired as to how the victim was feeling. Also they fail to mention that one of their journalists contacted the victim on twitter for information, funny how they did not contact Cross Keys for any information.
6. It's too easy to tar everyone with the same brush when something like this happens but there are always 2 sides to every story and Keys supporters have as much right to defend their club and players. Perhaps the Ponty supporter(s) on here would one day like to watch rugby with both eyes open and see that no club including their own is perfect.
7. I reiterate that no-one condones what Rhys has done but simply feels the sentence is unduly harsh. If this happens everytime a player receives treatment following a fight then RIP Rugby.
There are so many pathetic pointless comments being made here by seemingly clueless clowns I have given in and feel the need to add my points. 1. People (namely Now_we_go) quoting the Quinnell incident. This has been proved to be a tragic accident it has no relation to this what so ever. Maybe sometimes not even a families name or reputation can stop the truth from prevailing. The 2 more famous Quinnell brothers, particularly Craig were not exactly angels in their playing days were they. Perhaps you could ask your 'someone close to the action' why nothing was done during the game if they knew something had gone on. There was simply no reaction from anyone on the pitch from either side! 2. People have quoted Keys as being thuggish and only needing to look at their disciplinary record, just how many of these yellow or red cards several of you talk of were related to 'thuggish' behaviour, perhaps someone could enlighten me, if you know so much. 3. The Cross Keys supporters commenting on this, myself included are not condoning what Rhys has done but are defending their clubs reputation and also expressing their opinion that the sentence is way over the top. 4. The Cardiff v Cross Keys fixture was a particularly bad tempered affair and the brawl at the end of the game, was sadly always likely to happen given the lack of control shown by the match officials during several other 'dust-ups'. 5. When the incident was first bought to light by the argus, who continue to do all they can to run other clubs down, aside from everyone's friends from the big 'city', a tweet sent by the victim was quoted. Funny how the argus failed to mention this was a tweet sent in reply to another present Keys player who simply enquired as to how the victim was feeling. Also they fail to mention that one of their journalists contacted the victim on twitter for information, funny how they did not contact Cross Keys for any information. 6. It's too easy to tar everyone with the same brush when something like this happens but there are always 2 sides to every story and Keys supporters have as much right to defend their club and players. Perhaps the Ponty supporter(s) on here would one day like to watch rugby with both eyes open and see that no club including their own is perfect. 7. I reiterate that no-one condones what Rhys has done but simply feels the sentence is unduly harsh. If this happens everytime a player receives treatment following a fight then RIP Rugby. ValleyBoyo84
  • Score: 15

11:43am Sat 1 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

Stuff that was "overlooked" in the 1970's and 1980's is not acceptable now some 30 or 40 years later so it's not helpful quoting it. A lot of stuff in all sorts of areas that was "overlooked" then isn't now. A lot of it was never reported and not many got to know about it. Today we are in the age of mass media and social networking and bad behaviour is soon found out.
Stuff that was "overlooked" in the 1970's and 1980's is not acceptable now some 30 or 40 years later so it's not helpful quoting it. A lot of stuff in all sorts of areas that was "overlooked" then isn't now. A lot of it was never reported and not many got to know about it. Today we are in the age of mass media and social networking and bad behaviour is soon found out. Woodgnome
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

ValleyBoyo84 wrote:
There are so many pathetic pointless comments being made here by seemingly clueless clowns I have given in and feel the need to add my points.
1. People (namely Now_we_go) quoting the Quinnell incident. This has been proved to be a tragic accident it has no relation to this what so ever. Maybe sometimes not even a families name or reputation can stop the truth from prevailing. The 2 more famous Quinnell brothers, particularly Craig were not exactly angels in their playing days were they. Perhaps you could ask your 'someone close to the action' why nothing was done during the game if they knew something had gone on. There was simply no reaction from anyone on the pitch from either side!
2. People have quoted Keys as being thuggish and only needing to look at their disciplinary record, just how many of these yellow or red cards several of you talk of were related to 'thuggish' behaviour, perhaps someone could enlighten me, if you know so much.
3. The Cross Keys supporters commenting on this, myself included are not condoning what Rhys has done but are defending their clubs reputation and also expressing their opinion that the sentence is way over the top.
4. The Cardiff v Cross Keys fixture was a particularly bad tempered affair and the brawl at the end of the game, was sadly always likely to happen given the lack of control shown by the match officials during several other 'dust-ups'.
5. When the incident was first bought to light by the argus, who continue to do all they can to run other clubs down, aside from everyone's friends from the big 'city', a tweet sent by the victim was quoted. Funny how the argus failed to mention this was a tweet sent in reply to another present Keys player who simply enquired as to how the victim was feeling. Also they fail to mention that one of their journalists contacted the victim on twitter for information, funny how they did not contact Cross Keys for any information.
6. It's too easy to tar everyone with the same brush when something like this happens but there are always 2 sides to every story and Keys supporters have as much right to defend their club and players. Perhaps the Ponty supporter(s) on here would one day like to watch rugby with both eyes open and see that no club including their own is perfect.
7. I reiterate that no-one condones what Rhys has done but simply feels the sentence is unduly harsh. If this happens everytime a player receives treatment following a fight then RIP Rugby.
Maybe the sentence is harsh but some of the comments on this page saying that an assault causing a serious injury is ok just because its on a rugby pitch shows the underlying problem. Anyone that thinks that, sadly including some players, are living in the past and seriously deluding themselves about the laws of the land.

If you throw a punch on or off the pitch and cause a serious injury then you can expect a day in court. Rhys is certainly not the first.
[quote][p][bold]ValleyBoyo84[/bold] wrote: There are so many pathetic pointless comments being made here by seemingly clueless clowns I have given in and feel the need to add my points. 1. People (namely Now_we_go) quoting the Quinnell incident. This has been proved to be a tragic accident it has no relation to this what so ever. Maybe sometimes not even a families name or reputation can stop the truth from prevailing. The 2 more famous Quinnell brothers, particularly Craig were not exactly angels in their playing days were they. Perhaps you could ask your 'someone close to the action' why nothing was done during the game if they knew something had gone on. There was simply no reaction from anyone on the pitch from either side! 2. People have quoted Keys as being thuggish and only needing to look at their disciplinary record, just how many of these yellow or red cards several of you talk of were related to 'thuggish' behaviour, perhaps someone could enlighten me, if you know so much. 3. The Cross Keys supporters commenting on this, myself included are not condoning what Rhys has done but are defending their clubs reputation and also expressing their opinion that the sentence is way over the top. 4. The Cardiff v Cross Keys fixture was a particularly bad tempered affair and the brawl at the end of the game, was sadly always likely to happen given the lack of control shown by the match officials during several other 'dust-ups'. 5. When the incident was first bought to light by the argus, who continue to do all they can to run other clubs down, aside from everyone's friends from the big 'city', a tweet sent by the victim was quoted. Funny how the argus failed to mention this was a tweet sent in reply to another present Keys player who simply enquired as to how the victim was feeling. Also they fail to mention that one of their journalists contacted the victim on twitter for information, funny how they did not contact Cross Keys for any information. 6. It's too easy to tar everyone with the same brush when something like this happens but there are always 2 sides to every story and Keys supporters have as much right to defend their club and players. Perhaps the Ponty supporter(s) on here would one day like to watch rugby with both eyes open and see that no club including their own is perfect. 7. I reiterate that no-one condones what Rhys has done but simply feels the sentence is unduly harsh. If this happens everytime a player receives treatment following a fight then RIP Rugby.[/p][/quote]Maybe the sentence is harsh but some of the comments on this page saying that an assault causing a serious injury is ok just because its on a rugby pitch shows the underlying problem. Anyone that thinks that, sadly including some players, are living in the past and seriously deluding themselves about the laws of the land. If you throw a punch on or off the pitch and cause a serious injury then you can expect a day in court. Rhys is certainly not the first. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 4

2:52pm Sat 1 Feb 14

risca dragons says...

Now_we_go wrote:
Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way.
Sound like a bitter rival supporter,. If u watched crosskeys on a regular basis you would see the young talented future players coming through! For example the MOM for Wales under 20's Scott Matthews. They are not 4th in the table for no reason. As for the sentence for rhys, if we are going to give 12 month sentences for every punch landed on the premiership there would be no players left at the end of the season. That's not to say I condone the actions of rhys. I think any sentence needs to be proportionate to the crime and in this case it certainly is not, there are people out there serving manslaughter sentences who have got less.
[quote][p][bold]Now_we_go[/bold] wrote: Guys, I'm not going to name players but everyone in Welsh Premiership rugby knows Keys have a thuggish reputation. I could name names but don't want to be sued. I still can't believe your condoning Peebles. If it were a 'one off' incident I would say yes, harsh, but Keys for years go around beating, kicking, fighting their way to wining matches. Whether you like it or not they are facts!! Look at the disciplinary record for gods sake. P.s I know someone close to the action within Keys and they told me so much different as what was reported in the press regarding the quinnell incident. Try playing some rugby...thought not as you would be down the bottom end of the WPL if you did. Keys only know one way.[/p][/quote]Sound like a bitter rival supporter,. If u watched crosskeys on a regular basis you would see the young talented future players coming through! For example the MOM for Wales under 20's Scott Matthews. They are not 4th in the table for no reason. As for the sentence for rhys, if we are going to give 12 month sentences for every punch landed on the premiership there would be no players left at the end of the season. That's not to say I condone the actions of rhys. I think any sentence needs to be proportionate to the crime and in this case it certainly is not, there are people out there serving manslaughter sentences who have got less. risca dragons
  • Score: 4

2:54pm Sat 1 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

To be perfectly honest I am getting fed up with people generalising about this matter. Because you had to be there to see exactly what happened.I accept everybody is entitled to their opinion, but cardiff were getting well beat and started niggling and trying to wind up the keys players , then at the final whistle rhys peebles gets the ball slammed in his face and all hell breaks out. 30 players and eventually all the subs join in a free for all, and I mean a free for all. So one player out of40 connects and this is the result.
So,lets not ramble on about thuggery and dirty play because that is just not true in this case.
also, MR NOW_WE_GO. Are you for real?
To be perfectly honest I am getting fed up with people generalising about this matter. Because you had to be there to see exactly what happened.I accept everybody is entitled to their opinion, but cardiff were getting well beat and started niggling and trying to wind up the keys players , then at the final whistle rhys peebles gets the ball slammed in his face and all hell breaks out. 30 players and eventually all the subs join in a free for all, and I mean a free for all. So one player out of40 connects and this is the result. So,lets not ramble on about thuggery and dirty play because that is just not true in this case. also, MR NOW_WE_GO. Are you for real? davies_c14
  • Score: 16

11:17pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Claimchaser says...

CaptainB wrote:
Should never be allowed to set foot on a Rugby or any other pitch, no place for this in SPORT!!!!!
Coments like this just shows you have never set foot on a rugby field. Stick to tennis old man
[quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: Should never be allowed to set foot on a Rugby or any other pitch, no place for this in SPORT!!!!![/p][/quote]Coments like this just shows you have never set foot on a rugby field. Stick to tennis old man Claimchaser
  • Score: 4

11:28pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Claimchaser says...

all you arm chair critiics that have never put a pair of boots on, or have run around pretending to be a rugby player. Rugby is a hard physical game and anyone who plays it that way understand that. Some time you give it some time you take it. If you cant take the bumps run home to mam and ask her you want to take up tennis.
all you arm chair critiics that have never put a pair of boots on, or have run around pretending to be a rugby player. Rugby is a hard physical game and anyone who plays it that way understand that. Some time you give it some time you take it. If you cant take the bumps run home to mam and ask her you want to take up tennis. Claimchaser
  • Score: 1

9:55am Sun 2 Feb 14

NakedDancer says...

Claimchaser wrote:
all you arm chair critiics that have never put a pair of boots on, or have run around pretending to be a rugby player. Rugby is a hard physical game and anyone who plays it that way understand that. Some time you give it some time you take it. If you cant take the bumps run home to mam and ask her you want to take up tennis.
You don't even realise that throwback attitudes like this encouraging violence on the pitch (outside the laws of rugby) have resulted in a young man being sent to prison. You are to blame. It doesn't matter what anyone says, Assault is the law of the land however much you want to pretend otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Claimchaser[/bold] wrote: all you arm chair critiics that have never put a pair of boots on, or have run around pretending to be a rugby player. Rugby is a hard physical game and anyone who plays it that way understand that. Some time you give it some time you take it. If you cant take the bumps run home to mam and ask her you want to take up tennis.[/p][/quote]You don't even realise that throwback attitudes like this encouraging violence on the pitch (outside the laws of rugby) have resulted in a young man being sent to prison. You are to blame. It doesn't matter what anyone says, Assault is the law of the land however much you want to pretend otherwise. NakedDancer
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Sapper2171 says...

40 players fighting and 1 person gets sent to jail for 12 months ? Will someone please explain that to me ?
40 players fighting and 1 person gets sent to jail for 12 months ? Will someone please explain that to me ? Sapper2171
  • Score: 8

3:27pm Sun 2 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

Sapper2171;
Thats what we all want explained!!
Sapper2171; Thats what we all want explained!! davies_c14
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Sun 2 Feb 14

stars in your eyes says...

After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.
After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence. stars in your eyes
  • Score: 5

6:35pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Mr.Jolly. says...

Just want to say I'm disgusted at how Rhys is being treated- the powers that be are just cynically using him. I know quite a few of the family and I've never met more decent people.
If Rhys saw fit to fight I am sure it was the instinct to protect himself and his team mates in the melee just like the other guys who joined in the fight. Seems to me he is being made an example of for getting a **** good punch in.
The people who are punishing him are the same people who wave flags to glorify war when it suits them but who never have had the guts to face a real fight.
Makes me sick. Screwed country.
Hope this injustice is overturned.
Just want to say I'm disgusted at how Rhys is being treated- the powers that be are just cynically using him. I know quite a few of the family and I've never met more decent people. If Rhys saw fit to fight I am sure it was the instinct to protect himself and his team mates in the melee just like the other guys who joined in the fight. Seems to me he is being made an example of for getting a **** good punch in. The people who are punishing him are the same people who wave flags to glorify war when it suits them but who never have had the guts to face a real fight. Makes me sick. Screwed country. Hope this injustice is overturned. Mr.Jolly.
  • Score: 6

8:23pm Sun 2 Feb 14

NakedDancer says...

stars in your eyes wrote:
After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.
zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?
[quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ? NakedDancer
  • Score: 4

8:35pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

Mr.Jolly. wrote:
Just want to say I'm disgusted at how Rhys is being treated- the powers that be are just cynically using him. I know quite a few of the family and I've never met more decent people.
If Rhys saw fit to fight I am sure it was the instinct to protect himself and his team mates in the melee just like the other guys who joined in the fight. Seems to me he is being made an example of for getting a **** good punch in.
The people who are punishing him are the same people who wave flags to glorify war when it suits them but who never have had the guts to face a real fight.
Makes me sick. Screwed country.
Hope this injustice is overturned.
You are very confused. His family are irrelevant - they were not on trial. Rhys and his lawyer did not claim self defence and the Police, CPS and court would have considered that. "He is being made an example of for getting a ******** good punch in" - obviously yes, that is criminal assault that caused a serious injury. The police, CPS and court have nowt to do with wars.
[quote][p][bold]Mr.Jolly.[/bold] wrote: Just want to say I'm disgusted at how Rhys is being treated- the powers that be are just cynically using him. I know quite a few of the family and I've never met more decent people. If Rhys saw fit to fight I am sure it was the instinct to protect himself and his team mates in the melee just like the other guys who joined in the fight. Seems to me he is being made an example of for getting a **** good punch in. The people who are punishing him are the same people who wave flags to glorify war when it suits them but who never have had the guts to face a real fight. Makes me sick. Screwed country. Hope this injustice is overturned.[/p][/quote]You are very confused. His family are irrelevant - they were not on trial. Rhys and his lawyer did not claim self defence and the Police, CPS and court would have considered that. "He is being made an example of for getting a ******** good punch in" - obviously yes, that is criminal assault that caused a serious injury. The police, CPS and court have nowt to do with wars. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 3

8:39pm Sun 2 Feb 14

meritho7 says...

Family is not irrelevant when he had a little girl at home asking where he is!! How dare you!!
Rhys is the most decent person I know, that most know! No one condones violence! It could have been dealt with in a different way. END OF!!
Family is not irrelevant when he had a little girl at home asking where he is!! How dare you!! Rhys is the most decent person I know, that most know! No one condones violence! It could have been dealt with in a different way. END OF!! meritho7
  • Score: 0

9:57pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

Obviousy I meant the court does not care if he or his family are nice or nasty. Rhys was the only one on trial and the court is only interested in his offence. Yes there are other people affected if you get a criminal record for assault - so don't put yourself in that position. Maybe the sentence was harsh but you'll find a lot of people on this comments page condoning violence on the rugby pitch and that's where problems like this stem from. Rugby is not above the law.
Obviousy I meant the court does not care if he or his family are nice or nasty. Rhys was the only one on trial and the court is only interested in his offence. Yes there are other people affected if you get a criminal record for assault - so don't put yourself in that position. Maybe the sentence was harsh but you'll find a lot of people on this comments page condoning violence on the rugby pitch and that's where problems like this stem from. Rugby is not above the law. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 6

10:03pm Sun 2 Feb 14

stars in your eyes says...

NakedDancer wrote:
stars in your eyes wrote:
After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.
zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?
I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
. The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them.
[quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?[/p][/quote]I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them. stars in your eyes
  • Score: -2

10:37pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Davethom says...

Callum Lewis should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself. I would refuse to play alongside someone like him. What a coward!
Callum Lewis should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself. I would refuse to play alongside someone like him. What a coward! Davethom
  • Score: 9

10:55pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Davethom says...

Truthbtold2013 wrote:
FrankiesDad wrote:
I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago.
I think he needs teaching a lesson.
I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened
Same goes fir the cardiff player who threw the ball into his face
[quote][p][bold]Truthbtold2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FrankiesDad[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments but this isn't the first time this person has assaulted someone. He punched my Son in an unprovoked attack in a Risca Pub some time ago. I think he needs teaching a lesson.[/p][/quote]I agree I have also been assaulted by this person and by the looks the only ppl who are calling him a gentle giant are family and friends which is just natural if he's such a gentle giant how come he got what seems to be a problem with hitting ppl it takes a man to walk away from any sort of conflict and only use force when life is threatened[/p][/quote]Same goes fir the cardiff player who threw the ball into his face Davethom
  • Score: -7

10:57pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

stars in your eyes wrote:
NakedDancer wrote:
stars in your eyes wrote:
After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.
zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?
I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

. The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them.
The court considered 28 stitches to be a serious injury - obviously it is. The sentence may be harsh and you can carry on misleading these young men that violence on the pitch is fine but the law of assault is the same on and off the pitch - even if you are incapable of understanding that.
[quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?[/p][/quote]I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them.[/p][/quote]The court considered 28 stitches to be a serious injury - obviously it is. The sentence may be harsh and you can carry on misleading these young men that violence on the pitch is fine but the law of assault is the same on and off the pitch - even if you are incapable of understanding that. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 7

8:36am Mon 3 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

A lot comments on here by tribal commentators who must regard themselves as "men". Rather worrying that anyone condones unwarranted violence even if provoked. Are these neaderthal instincts actually being encouraged?
A lot comments on here by tribal commentators who must regard themselves as "men". Rather worrying that anyone condones unwarranted violence even if provoked. Are these neaderthal instincts actually being encouraged? Woodgnome
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Mon 3 Feb 14

stars in your eyes says...

Thomas O'Malley wrote:
stars in your eyes wrote:
NakedDancer wrote:
stars in your eyes wrote:
After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.
zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?
I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


. The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them.
The court considered 28 stitches to be a serious injury - obviously it is. The sentence may be harsh and you can carry on misleading these young men that violence on the pitch is fine but the law of assault is the same on and off the pitch - even if you are incapable of understanding that.
I am more than capable of understanding what have gone on and I am not misleading any body. This is my opinion the same as you have yours. The court might of considered 28 stiches to be s serious injury, but this case did not warrent this young lad going to prison and made an example of. If you are capable of putting your feelings to one side and read what I have written and a lot of the other comments written by the general public, as the statistics show the majoirity including me have clearly stated that this young lad should not of gone with out being punished, but seriously a prison sentence, No Maddness. No one who have written a comment on this site have condoned violence including my self, but what clearly jumps out in reading the comments this lad did not deserve to be sent to prison. Punishment yes Prison sentence NO NO NO.
[quote][p][bold]Thomas O'Malley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stars in your eyes[/bold] wrote: After reading this article on this young man Rhys Peebles, I can not believe our leagal system wasted tax payers money and police resources sending this young man to prison. I quite understand this incident should not go with out punishment, but lets put things into perspective shall we. There were two teams playing this tough game of rugby and two teams involved in this brawl, yet just one poor young man made am example off. A sad sad day for the game of rugby, when rugby finds the need to involve our legal system and police force in the game . I am sure their resources should be better used keeping the hard criminals of the street and looking for those who have absconded from prison who are serving sentences for murder. Thats what I call thugery, disgutting and harmful to our society and should never be allowed to walk our streets. Rugby is a tough and physical game where men are men and blood levels run high. Lets just hope this is not going to be the path that rugby clubs are going to go down. Is this a precedence that as been set for any rugby player's who are involed in any brawls on the rugby field, because if so why weren't the other rugby players in court on charge the same as Rhys Peebles and handed out a punishment for their involvement in the brawl. Rugby is what it is a rough hard physical game, there are always alternative games, which are less physical which can be taken up, bowls, Tennis, swimming, ballet lessons and so forth. Total maddness a prison sentence.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzz. Only one person was seriously injured hence the assault charge. Punching is outside the laws of rugby. Assault is a criminal offence - what part of that do you not understand ?[/p][/quote]I understand one thing, this young man Rhys Peebles did not warrent being sent to prison, seriously Injured, I don't think so NAKED DANCER, rugby is a mans game, the saying is, if you can't stick the heat get out of the kitchen. The boy looked perfectly healthy playing rugby a couple of weeks later. Do you understand the meaning of some one being seriously injured. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . The out come of this what I have read is a decent boy being made an examlpe of and taxpayers money could of been put to good use else where. No body is saying that the young lad should of gone with out being punished. But disgusting that he was sent to prison. Next thing we know they will be wearing skirts playing rugby and taking hand bags with them.[/p][/quote]The court considered 28 stitches to be a serious injury - obviously it is. The sentence may be harsh and you can carry on misleading these young men that violence on the pitch is fine but the law of assault is the same on and off the pitch - even if you are incapable of understanding that.[/p][/quote]I am more than capable of understanding what have gone on and I am not misleading any body. This is my opinion the same as you have yours. The court might of considered 28 stiches to be s serious injury, but this case did not warrent this young lad going to prison and made an example of. If you are capable of putting your feelings to one side and read what I have written and a lot of the other comments written by the general public, as the statistics show the majoirity including me have clearly stated that this young lad should not of gone with out being punished, but seriously a prison sentence, No Maddness. No one who have written a comment on this site have condoned violence including my self, but what clearly jumps out in reading the comments this lad did not deserve to be sent to prison. Punishment yes Prison sentence NO NO NO. stars in your eyes
  • Score: 6

9:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

Don't get too wound up by mrs cardiff mission, probably only registered today to try and be controversial. Take it for what it is!!!!
Just a footnote for anybody who slags off crosskeys disciplinary record;
As it stands there six teams who have had more yellow cards than them.
Carmarthen quins, cardiff, newport, llandovery, neath and llanelli. FACT.
Don't get too wound up by mrs cardiff mission, probably only registered today to try and be controversial. Take it for what it is!!!! Just a footnote for anybody who slags off crosskeys disciplinary record; As it stands there six teams who have had more yellow cards than them. Carmarthen quins, cardiff, newport, llandovery, neath and llanelli. FACT. davies_c14
  • Score: 7

11:40am Tue 4 Feb 14

Gareth says...

Was a year in prison too much: absolutely. Let's get that out of the way... But some of the comments I see on here from some people defending the gent in question are mind-boggling.

Imagine if the roles had been reversed, and Rhys had been punched so hard that his daughter didn't recognise him in hospital, or spent the night crying at the sight of her daddy's blood and bandages.

Then imagine people defending the guy who threw the punch at Rhys; telling his young daughter that the guy who caused it was a gentle giant and the nicest guy she could hope to meet.

Would you tell his daughter that they are right? That daddy being punched so hard that he needed 28 stitches was all part of the game, that it was her daddy's own fault, and he was a loser if he reported it?

Guys, I know the sentence was OTT, that there is nobility in being loyal and defending a mate... but seriously, the arguments you are using aren't helping your cause!
Was a year in prison too much: absolutely. Let's get that out of the way... But some of the comments I see on here from some people defending the gent in question are mind-boggling. Imagine if the roles had been reversed, and Rhys had been punched so hard that his daughter didn't recognise him in hospital, or spent the night crying at the sight of her daddy's blood and bandages. Then imagine people defending the guy who threw the punch at Rhys; telling his young daughter that the guy who caused it was a gentle giant and the nicest guy she could hope to meet. Would you tell his daughter that they are right? That daddy being punched so hard that he needed 28 stitches was all part of the game, that it was her daddy's own fault, and he was a loser if he reported it? Guys, I know the sentence was OTT, that there is nobility in being loyal and defending a mate... but seriously, the arguments you are using aren't helping your cause! Gareth
  • Score: 0

11:53am Tue 4 Feb 14

meritho7 says...

There is no cause to have to help! Everyone's entitled to their opinions, granted! It's a shame that the opponent had blood on his bandages! It's a shame that someone who is 'a great person' and 'the nicest person I know' has to serve such a long sentence for what has happened and will be missed by so many including an innocent little girl! The guy you are defending was playing on Friday night! Hardly suffering long term. Any way enough of the tittle tattle! I'd give up now if I was you. Rhys has a huge amount of support, much more than he has niggly people like yourselves slagging him off! That's all we need to be concerned about ;) ttfn
There is no cause to have to help! Everyone's entitled to their opinions, granted! It's a shame that the opponent had blood on his bandages! It's a shame that someone who is 'a great person' and 'the nicest person I know' has to serve such a long sentence for what has happened and will be missed by so many including an innocent little girl! The guy you are defending was playing on Friday night! Hardly suffering long term. Any way enough of the tittle tattle! I'd give up now if I was you. Rhys has a huge amount of support, much more than he has niggly people like yourselves slagging him off! That's all we need to be concerned about ;) ttfn meritho7
  • Score: 0

1:30pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Gareth says...

I'm glad he has friends like you that support him and his family. This must be an awful time for them, and I would hope my friends rallied around as much if I ever found myself in prison. My issue isn't with your desire to protect those you love.

My point is that you can support someone and also acknowledge that he committed the crime, no one else. What I read here is a total mitigation of responsibility on his behalf. He's a mate, so let's point fingers at everyone else - the victim, the other players, and us other readers - as being in the wrong or to blame.

Look, if your beef is with the sentencing, then I'm sure a lot of people will agree with you. I think it was pretty harsh. But pointing fingers at everyone BUT him for being in court in the first place is a little naïve and pretty condescending.
I'm glad he has friends like you that support him and his family. This must be an awful time for them, and I would hope my friends rallied around as much if I ever found myself in prison. My issue isn't with your desire to protect those you love. My point is that you can support someone and also acknowledge that he committed the crime, no one else. What I read here is a total mitigation of responsibility on his behalf. He's a mate, so let's point fingers at everyone else - the victim, the other players, and us other readers - as being in the wrong or to blame. Look, if your beef is with the sentencing, then I'm sure a lot of people will agree with you. I think it was pretty harsh. But pointing fingers at everyone BUT him for being in court in the first place is a little naïve and pretty condescending. Gareth
  • Score: 3

3:10pm Tue 4 Feb 14

MooseCraftsman says...

vertidog wrote:
Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play!
I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"??
Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next.
Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts!
Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified.
I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts.
The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence.
I look forward to your response.
Very well said. Free the Crosskeys one!!!
[quote][p][bold]vertidog[/bold] wrote: Woodgnome you make these comments which clearly reflect your opinion which is fine. The issue i have is that as stated this was one punch in a 30 man brawl. Does this mean that every person who throws a punch on the rugby field is guilty of "thuggery" and should in your view not play game again?? If that's the case there would be no-one left to play! I feel this sets a dangerous precedence and could possibly open the flood gates for all kinds of allegations on the field of play. The fact is that out of the thirty odd players fighting Rhys was the only one to cause significant injury with one single blow. In the same incident three Cardiff players set upon one Crosskeys player. Is this not a worse case of "thuggery"?? Despite the comments made by the media and commentators the brutal fact is that violence in sport is glorified in one breath then condemned in the next. Is this worse than Bradley Davies being knocked unconscious by Andrew Hore in an unprovoked attack from behind in an international match at the Millennium stadium? IS it worse than Ian Evans stamping on someone's face? Broad sweeping statements such as yours need to be supported with some facts! Regarding the sentence the frustration lies in the lack of consistency, when Billy Burglar burgles ten house and walks away with community service and heroin drug dealers receive a suspended sentence then how can this sentence be justified. I admit i am a family member of Rhys but i am attempting to remove the emotion and speak of the facts. The fact is Rhys pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity therefore reducing cost to the tax player and removing the stress which would have been put on the player who would have had to relive the incident in court. He apologized sincerely and also the judge accepted that he did not intend to cause such injury compensation was also offered and also the probation service recommended community hours and a suspended sentence and yet unbelievably he was given this sentence. I look forward to your response.[/p][/quote]Very well said. Free the Crosskeys one!!! MooseCraftsman
  • Score: 4

7:49pm Tue 4 Feb 14

GarethMartin says...

whatintheworld wrote:
it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.
He was man enough to slam then ball in Rhys's face but not man enough to take the consequences, unfortunately for him, he thought he was tougher than he actually is.
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: it makes no difference where the punch was thrown, it is still disgusting behaviour - nevermind the fact he punched a man 10 YEARS HIS JUNIOR.[/p][/quote]He was man enough to slam then ball in Rhys's face but not man enough to take the consequences, unfortunately for him, he thought he was tougher than he actually is. GarethMartin
  • Score: 2

8:36pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Davethom says...

Gareth wrote:
Was a year in prison too much: absolutely. Let's get that out of the way... But some of the comments I see on here from some people defending the gent in question are mind-boggling.

Imagine if the roles had been reversed, and Rhys had been punched so hard that his daughter didn't recognise him in hospital, or spent the night crying at the sight of her daddy's blood and bandages.

Then imagine people defending the guy who threw the punch at Rhys; telling his young daughter that the guy who caused it was a gentle giant and the nicest guy she could hope to meet.

Would you tell his daughter that they are right? That daddy being punched so hard that he needed 28 stitches was all part of the game, that it was her daddy's own fault, and he was a loser if he reported it?

Guys, I know the sentence was OTT, that there is nobility in being loyal and defending a mate... but seriously, the arguments you are using aren't helping your cause!
Rhys gets kicked punched and stamped on week in week out, he chose to play the sport he decides to take the knocks thats given out in such a contact sport.
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: Was a year in prison too much: absolutely. Let's get that out of the way... But some of the comments I see on here from some people defending the gent in question are mind-boggling. Imagine if the roles had been reversed, and Rhys had been punched so hard that his daughter didn't recognise him in hospital, or spent the night crying at the sight of her daddy's blood and bandages. Then imagine people defending the guy who threw the punch at Rhys; telling his young daughter that the guy who caused it was a gentle giant and the nicest guy she could hope to meet. Would you tell his daughter that they are right? That daddy being punched so hard that he needed 28 stitches was all part of the game, that it was her daddy's own fault, and he was a loser if he reported it? Guys, I know the sentence was OTT, that there is nobility in being loyal and defending a mate... but seriously, the arguments you are using aren't helping your cause![/p][/quote]Rhys gets kicked punched and stamped on week in week out, he chose to play the sport he decides to take the knocks thats given out in such a contact sport. Davethom
  • Score: 0

8:39pm Tue 4 Feb 14

stars in your eyes says...

meritho7 wrote:
There is no cause to have to help! Everyone's entitled to their opinions, granted! It's a shame that the opponent had blood on his bandages! It's a shame that someone who is 'a great person' and 'the nicest person I know' has to serve such a long sentence for what has happened and will be missed by so many including an innocent little girl! The guy you are defending was playing on Friday night! Hardly suffering long term. Any way enough of the tittle tattle! I'd give up now if I was you. Rhys has a huge amount of support, much more than he has niggly people like yourselves slagging him off! That's all we need to be concerned about ;) ttfn
Rhys sounds a decent lad and reading the comments this is obvious. You can see Rhys has huge support. So what do that tell us all. It is not as if Rhys got up that morning and thought right rugby today I am going to seriously injure some one. It was a game of rugby with 30 players on the field who were all involved, yet only one lad got caught (Rhys Peebles). Let them slag Rhys off as much as they want, as it is only what they believe not what every one esle thinks. Your right meritho its not the tittle tattle that counts, its the over whelming support that is out there for Rhys.
[quote][p][bold]meritho7[/bold] wrote: There is no cause to have to help! Everyone's entitled to their opinions, granted! It's a shame that the opponent had blood on his bandages! It's a shame that someone who is 'a great person' and 'the nicest person I know' has to serve such a long sentence for what has happened and will be missed by so many including an innocent little girl! The guy you are defending was playing on Friday night! Hardly suffering long term. Any way enough of the tittle tattle! I'd give up now if I was you. Rhys has a huge amount of support, much more than he has niggly people like yourselves slagging him off! That's all we need to be concerned about ;) ttfn[/p][/quote]Rhys sounds a decent lad and reading the comments this is obvious. You can see Rhys has huge support. So what do that tell us all. It is not as if Rhys got up that morning and thought right rugby today I am going to seriously injure some one. It was a game of rugby with 30 players on the field who were all involved, yet only one lad got caught (Rhys Peebles). Let them slag Rhys off as much as they want, as it is only what they believe not what every one esle thinks. Your right meritho its not the tittle tattle that counts, its the over whelming support that is out there for Rhys. stars in your eyes
  • Score: 2

9:31pm Tue 4 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

As I have already said in a few previous posts, no one condones violence on or off the pitch, nor is there any need for people to make provocative comments about Rhys Peebles or Crosskeys rfc.Rhys takes as much as he gives every week and I can comment as I watch every keys game home and away, but the main point is, and should be, that Rhys peebles never went onto that pitch in cardiff intent on causing injury to anyone on purpose, but went on to play hardand fair as he and crosskeys always do.
The only people saying different are rival supporters and others who don't watch crosskeys but are maybe jelous of how well they have done over the last few years.
But, the point I'm trying to make is that, out of 40 fit young men fighting, rhys peebles lands a blow which unfortunately lands flush on another players face.
Therefore, he is singled out as some nasty thug by people who have no clue as to what went on(this was no street fight).
so, please don't treat this like something which happened outside a pub amongst drunken yobs, because thats what I call thugs!!
As I have already said in a few previous posts, no one condones violence on or off the pitch, nor is there any need for people to make provocative comments about Rhys Peebles or Crosskeys rfc.Rhys takes as much as he gives every week and I can comment as I watch every keys game home and away, but the main point is, and should be, that Rhys peebles never went onto that pitch in cardiff intent on causing injury to anyone on purpose, but went on to play hardand fair as he and crosskeys always do. The only people saying different are rival supporters and others who don't watch crosskeys but are maybe jelous of how well they have done over the last few years. But, the point I'm trying to make is that, out of 40 fit young men fighting, rhys peebles lands a blow which unfortunately lands flush on another players face. Therefore, he is singled out as some nasty thug by people who have no clue as to what went on(this was no street fight). so, please don't treat this like something which happened outside a pub amongst drunken yobs, because thats what I call thugs!! davies_c14
  • Score: 5

9:31pm Tue 4 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

As I have already said in a few previous posts, no one condones violence on or off the pitch, nor is there any need for people to make provocative comments about Rhys Peebles or Crosskeys rfc.Rhys takes as much as he gives every week and I can comment as I watch every keys game home and away, but the main point is, and should be, that Rhys peebles never went onto that pitch in cardiff intent on causing injury to anyone on purpose, but went on to play hardand fair as he and crosskeys always do.
The only people saying different are rival supporters and others who don't watch crosskeys but are maybe jelous of how well they have done over the last few years.
But, the point I'm trying to make is that, out of 40 fit young men fighting, rhys peebles lands a blow which unfortunately lands flush on another players face.
Therefore, he is singled out as some nasty thug by people who have no clue as to what went on(this was no street fight).
so, please don't treat this like something which happened outside a pub amongst drunken yobs, because thats what I call thugs!!
As I have already said in a few previous posts, no one condones violence on or off the pitch, nor is there any need for people to make provocative comments about Rhys Peebles or Crosskeys rfc.Rhys takes as much as he gives every week and I can comment as I watch every keys game home and away, but the main point is, and should be, that Rhys peebles never went onto that pitch in cardiff intent on causing injury to anyone on purpose, but went on to play hardand fair as he and crosskeys always do. The only people saying different are rival supporters and others who don't watch crosskeys but are maybe jelous of how well they have done over the last few years. But, the point I'm trying to make is that, out of 40 fit young men fighting, rhys peebles lands a blow which unfortunately lands flush on another players face. Therefore, he is singled out as some nasty thug by people who have no clue as to what went on(this was no street fight). so, please don't treat this like something which happened outside a pub amongst drunken yobs, because thats what I call thugs!! davies_c14
  • Score: 5

9:37am Wed 5 Feb 14

yuworkedup says...

12 months? thats stupid.did the player who threw the ball into his face and then got a reaction press charges?
12 months? thats stupid.did the player who threw the ball into his face and then got a reaction press charges? yuworkedup
  • Score: 1

5:50pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Exile 1976 says...

The amount of idiots on here excusing what he has done because 'rugby's a man's game' etc etc are failing to understand that throwing a punch at a man when he wasn't even directly involved in a fight with Peebles so it wasn't even self-defence has NOTHING to do with rugby.
It was a thuggish act and he CHOSE to get involved in the fight and a 16st man has the potential to cause all sorts of damage with 'just one punch' to the face. Perhaps the sentence too severe, but by throwing that punch he took a risk, one that has potentially ruined his life.
As for those of you blaming the other guy, the victim, Callum well there really is no educating some people.
The amount of idiots on here excusing what he has done because 'rugby's a man's game' etc etc are failing to understand that throwing a punch at a man when he wasn't even directly involved in a fight with Peebles so it wasn't even self-defence has NOTHING to do with rugby. It was a thuggish act and he CHOSE to get involved in the fight and a 16st man has the potential to cause all sorts of damage with 'just one punch' to the face. Perhaps the sentence too severe, but by throwing that punch he took a risk, one that has potentially ruined his life. As for those of you blaming the other guy, the victim, Callum well there really is no educating some people. Exile 1976
  • Score: -2

7:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

davies_c14 says...

Exile1976.
judging by your comments you must be cardiff mission in disguise.
If you was at the game you wouldn't be making such comments I'm afraid, so back to the western mail and echo please where you can talk all the rubbish you want.
Exile1976. judging by your comments you must be cardiff mission in disguise. If you was at the game you wouldn't be making such comments I'm afraid, so back to the western mail and echo please where you can talk all the rubbish you want. davies_c14
  • Score: 4

8:05pm Wed 5 Feb 14

stars in your eyes says...

Exile 1976 wrote:
The amount of idiots on here excusing what he has done because 'rugby's a man's game' etc etc are failing to understand that throwing a punch at a man when he wasn't even directly involved in a fight with Peebles so it wasn't even self-defence has NOTHING to do with rugby.
It was a thuggish act and he CHOSE to get involved in the fight and a 16st man has the potential to cause all sorts of damage with 'just one punch' to the face. Perhaps the sentence too severe, but by throwing that punch he took a risk, one that has potentially ruined his life.
As for those of you blaming the other guy, the victim, Callum well there really is no educating some people.
By your comment obiviouly not you can't aducate some people. Your a good example of you can't educate pork.
[quote][p][bold]Exile 1976[/bold] wrote: The amount of idiots on here excusing what he has done because 'rugby's a man's game' etc etc are failing to understand that throwing a punch at a man when he wasn't even directly involved in a fight with Peebles so it wasn't even self-defence has NOTHING to do with rugby. It was a thuggish act and he CHOSE to get involved in the fight and a 16st man has the potential to cause all sorts of damage with 'just one punch' to the face. Perhaps the sentence too severe, but by throwing that punch he took a risk, one that has potentially ruined his life. As for those of you blaming the other guy, the victim, Callum well there really is no educating some people.[/p][/quote]By your comment obiviouly not you can't aducate some people. Your a good example of you can't educate pork. stars in your eyes
  • Score: -5

2:39pm Sun 23 Feb 14

wally2606 says...

Firstly I am not related in fact I have never even met Rhys Peebles but I have been involved in that sort of 30 man brawl in my past, and there by the grace of God I say, mostly they are handbags at dawn. These things do happen in rugby, its a contact sport and from time to time tempers boil over, anyone who disagrees has either never played rugby at any level or even followed rugby. This should have been dealt with by the WRU not the court of law, how easy it could have been the other way around and the victim being the one who connects.
Firstly I am not related in fact I have never even met Rhys Peebles but I have been involved in that sort of 30 man brawl in my past, and there by the grace of God I say, mostly they are handbags at dawn. These things do happen in rugby, its a contact sport and from time to time tempers boil over, anyone who disagrees has either never played rugby at any level or even followed rugby. This should have been dealt with by the WRU not the court of law, how easy it could have been the other way around and the victim being the one who connects. wally2606
  • Score: 4

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