Asbestos report vindicates us on Cwmcarn School - Caerphilly councillor's claim

A REPORT highlighting the extent of asbestos contamination at Cwmcarn High School "vindicates" the council's decision to close it, a Caerphilly cabinet member claimed tonight.

A survey by consultants Ensafe sets out the work required to address the problem at the site before pupils and staff can return.

In a statement released a few minutes ago, Councillor Rhianon Passmore, cabinet member for education, said of the survey: "I hope the community will recognise we had no option but to temporarily close the school in the best interests of pupils and staff."

Last week we reported claims by the school governors and head teacher Jacqui Peplinsky that independent expert Professor Robin Howe, employed to advise the council on three separate asbestos surveys, was not impartial, something he denied.

Cllr Passmore said last night that at the time the school closed, the extent of asbestos contamination affecting the whole site was not known and further investigations were required.

"It is regrettable the council were not permitted to undertake those investigations at the time," she said. "However, we welcome the outcome of the management survey which re-enforces the safety concerns which the council have consistently held."

The Ensafe survey suggests a £1.5 million programme of work is needed to remove the asbestos and make the site safe, said Cllr Passmore.

"This report confirms there is a major asbestos problem at Cwmcarn which needs a considerable amount of time, money and effort to put right," she said.

"The health and wellbeing of the school community has always been paramount and I am confident that we acted properly, swiftly and decisively to protect the pupils and staff at Cwmcarn High School."

The authority is now considering the report and members will be asked to agree a way forward in the near future.

Comments(11)

SaveCwmcarn says...
6:27pm Mon 18 Mar 13

This is a copy of the letter from the Headteacher on Friday:


Dear all,
We have now received the Management Survey and the experts have presented a very practial solution that will allow us to return safely to the site vey soon.

The survey identified damaged asbestos and asbestos debris most of which has been contained in roof voids for many years and this has always been controlled and managed in situ. Once again, we confrm that the airborne sampling has not revealed any fibre levels above the Level of Quantification and the HSE/HSL has confirmed that the asbestos has been managed appropriately.

The survey has identified that it is sensible to remove the asbesos debris located in the A Block so that we can maintain and renovate this section of the school in the future. This remediation will reduce any potential risks in the future and enable access to the roof voids in order to complete essential repair work. It is worth noting that this work could have been completed on a phased basis without the need to relocate the school population and this would have safeguarded the deterioration of the site during our absence. Indeed this is the approach that has been taken by CBCC with other schools.

The proposed first stage of work is to remove asbestos in the Gym and Canteen thus releasing the single storey block, Gym and Canteen by May. Block A would be sealed off and we would need temporary accommodation for an interim period. All of the asbestos could be removed by September thus ensuring that Cwmcan High School is free of any asbestos debris or damaged asbestos and any potential risk.

The Management Survey and Options Appraisal has been sent to CBCC and we will await their invitation to move this situation forward and agree our return date.

Yours sincerely.

SaveCwmcarn says...
6:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13

They are misleading you all by quoting prices that do not revolve around asbestos. They are in no way vindicated and if this does not suggest a secondary agenda nothing will.

If you look at the Asset Management plan for the county Cemcarn require less money spent on them than 6 other secondary schools.

They will not rip the heart out of this Community.

theviking666 says...
6:46pm Mon 18 Mar 13

In a statement released a few minutes ago, Councillor Rhianon Passmore, cabinet member for education, said of the survey: "I hope the community will recognise we had no option but to temporarily close the school in the best interests of pupils and staff." ............. So when is it going to open again as you say it was only temporarily closed.

Kevin Ward - Editor says...
10:13am Tue 19 Mar 13

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SaveCwmcarn says...
10:20am Tue 19 Mar 13

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
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Thankyou - as you can tell this is a highly emotive issue for all involved

lisann says...
11:09am Tue 19 Mar 13

Somebody is playing the system well here! Councillors will be judged on their actions (or lack of) and the electorate will not forget come the time for re-election..

lisann says...
11:23am Tue 19 Mar 13

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
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Dear Mr Ward, could you please send a journalist to talk to "Save Cwmcarn" , there is quite a big story if you scratch under the surface .

isobel57 says...
12:32pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Thank you Editor for removing the inflammatory comments we don't need comments of that nature. As a supporter I hope this issue can be resolved as soon as possible to the satisfaction of all concerned. The best way forward would seem to be a meeting as soon as possible between the school and CCBC. The press releases from Councillor Passmore are not helping the situation at all but to the contrary are alarmist and contain some inaccuracies. Councillor Passmore states that the cost for the programme of work needed to remove asbestos and to make the site safe is £1.5 million. This figure is not entirely correct, the costs suggested in the Ensafe management survey are :-
Removal of Asbestos-£383,800.0
0
Reinstatement. -£281,350.00 giving a total of £664,150.00.
The first phase of the work could be completed in 28days . Porta Cabins would be required at a further cost of £297,225.08. The final cost would therefore be £962,375.08. There are also optional extras suggested at a cost of £622,575.08 I would stress the word optional. I would suggest that the councillor reads the report thoroughly to establish the history of the works carried out at the school and who has been responsible for signing off some of the works which has resulted in the amount of debris in some of the voids. She might not feel that the council has been vindicated quite so strongly! Work has been carried out at the school by CCBC in the vicinity of the debris, it must have been seen why wasn't it removed as it has been in other school's? It seems that the work could have been carried out with the pupils on site and £1.4 million could have been used for remediation and removal work. Talk around the table Council not through the press!

SaveCwmcarn says...
12:34pm Tue 19 Mar 13

isobel57 wrote:
Thank you Editor for removing the inflammatory comments we don't need comments of that nature. As a supporter I hope this issue can be resolved as soon as possible to the satisfaction of all concerned. The best way forward would seem to be a meeting as soon as possible between the school and CCBC. The press releases from Councillor Passmore are not helping the situation at all but to the contrary are alarmist and contain some inaccuracies. Councillor Passmore states that the cost for the programme of work needed to remove asbestos and to make the site safe is £1.5 million. This figure is not entirely correct, the costs suggested in the Ensafe management survey are :-
Removal of Asbestos-£383,800.0

0
Reinstatement. -£281,350.00 giving a total of £664,150.00.
The first phase of the work could be completed in 28days . Porta Cabins would be required at a further cost of £297,225.08. The final cost would therefore be £962,375.08. There are also optional extras suggested at a cost of £622,575.08 I would stress the word optional. I would suggest that the councillor reads the report thoroughly to establish the history of the works carried out at the school and who has been responsible for signing off some of the works which has resulted in the amount of debris in some of the voids. She might not feel that the council has been vindicated quite so strongly! Work has been carried out at the school by CCBC in the vicinity of the debris, it must have been seen why wasn't it removed as it has been in other school's? It seems that the work could have been carried out with the pupils on site and £1.4 million could have been used for remediation and removal work. Talk around the table Council not through the press!
Well said - all we need is transparency and honesty.

isobel57 says...
1:31pm Tue 19 Mar 13

The Ensafe desktop survey clearly states that the council were wrong to close the school immediately as the advice that CCBC had been given was not supported by the testing and sample results. There was clearly no change in the Asbestos Containing Materials and therefore no increase in risk. Due to the enforced and unnecessary closure Ensafe are of the opinion that works which would have been necessary at some point should now be carried out. The asbestos debris within the ceiling voids has accumulated as a result of failure to remove it adequately and CCBC would be prudent to consider their responsibilities and role in these matters rather than simply blaming the SchoolGovernors. Stop apportioning blame and work with the school as you claim to do. In the interests of the Health and Safety of the Staff and Pupils be Open and Transparent Council and discuss the way forward with the school. Stop trying to justify your actions!

Cwmderi says...
2:19pm Tue 19 Mar 13

So Cllr Passmore, the the Cabinet Member for Education has popped her head above the parapit to make a statement.
The real question is 'where has she been for the past six months whilst pupils, staff, parents and governors have been seeking her help, guidance and support.
Perhaps a photo would be good, just to let us know what this Cabinet member from Risca looks like

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