Newport Gwent Dragons and Wales star to join European club

Campaign Series: Dan Lydiate to leave Dragons for European club Dan Lydiate to leave Dragons for European club

NEWPORT Gwent Dragons have this morning released the following statement:

Dragons back row Dan Lydiate will be leaving the region at the end of the season to take up a contract with an undisclosed European team.

Dragons back row Dan Lydiate will be leaving the region at the end of the season to take up a contract with an undisclosed European team.

Danny has played for the senior side at Rodney Parade since 2006, overcoming a serious neck injury in 2007 which threatened his career.

The RBS 6 Nations player of the series has been a key player for the Region and the Dragons were keen to retain him within their ranks.

“We are obviously very disappointed that Danny has decided to leave the Dragons,” said Dragons Director of rugby Rob Beale. “He has been a key part of our set up for several years and is popular with both the players and the coaches.”

“I can assure our supporters that we did all that we could to retain Dan’s services but we simply cannot compete with the offers which have been put on the table.”

There will be no further comment from Danny on this issue at this time.

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9:43am Wed 5 Dec 12

marchog says...

Doomed!
Doomed! marchog
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9:52am Wed 5 Dec 12

portman says...

Tob's next!
Tob's next! portman
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10:18am Wed 5 Dec 12

newport city of dreams says...

i agree toby next and then last person out turn lights off, what a total mess for newport and welsh rugby very sad to see
cant blame them for going there is no reason to stay in wales never mind newport dragons. dont no what the answer is ....
i agree toby next and then last person out turn lights off, what a total mess for newport and welsh rugby very sad to see cant blame them for going there is no reason to stay in wales never mind newport dragons. dont no what the answer is .... newport city of dreams
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10:35am Wed 5 Dec 12

rhinestine says...

He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ...........

He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........

Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming....

Hope it goes well for you dan!
He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ........... He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........ Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming.... Hope it goes well for you dan! rhinestine
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10:48am Wed 5 Dec 12

ncfcr says...

rhinestine wrote:
He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ...........

He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........

Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming....

Hope it goes well for you dan!
Sinking crowds, players leaving in their droves. What odds on the ground being sold to the football? You could surely do with a couple of quid.
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote: He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ........... He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........ Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming.... Hope it goes well for you dan![/p][/quote]Sinking crowds, players leaving in their droves. What odds on the ground being sold to the football? You could surely do with a couple of quid. ncfcr
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11:20am Wed 5 Dec 12

rugbyman says...

On a POSITIVE note.

Can't think of one!
On a POSITIVE note. Can't think of one! rugbyman
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11:25am Wed 5 Dec 12

newport city of dreams says...

dragons and blues to join, dragons cant go on as they are. just have 2 regions we may get a decent team between the 2 of them.west is best can merge as well and if that still gets no where disband it all and we can all go back to watching newport, cardiff, swansea, neath ect
dragons and blues to join, dragons cant go on as they are. just have 2 regions we may get a decent team between the 2 of them.west is best can merge as well and if that still gets no where disband it all and we can all go back to watching newport, cardiff, swansea, neath ect newport city of dreams
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11:39am Wed 5 Dec 12

high x boy says...

a bit of a mess at the moment.
a bit of a mess at the moment. high x boy
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12:06pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Gareth says...

rhinestine wrote:
He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ...........

He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........

Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming....

Hope it goes well for you dan!
i remember the western mail touting the move to Racing Metro a few months ago, but those figures are news. Really can't blame him - you're right.
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote: He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ........... He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........ Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming.... Hope it goes well for you dan![/p][/quote]i remember the western mail touting the move to Racing Metro a few months ago, but those figures are news. Really can't blame him - you're right. Gareth
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12:43pm Wed 5 Dec 12

silurix says...

He'll be missed - the Dragons , of all the regions, can least afford to lose their quality players. Inevitable really. Good luck Dan.
On a positive note - there's an opportunity for someone to step into his shoes. Back row is probably the one area of the pack where the Dragons have fewer problems.
This migration of players seems to be affecting all regions ( except the scarlets apparently ). I wonder if Rog L. has a cunning plan to fix it or whether he even sees it as a problem.
His team are still pulling 40K+ crowds at the MS so finances are not such a problem for him. We seem to be in a vacuum at the moment.
He'll be missed - the Dragons , of all the regions, can least afford to lose their quality players. Inevitable really. Good luck Dan. On a positive note - there's an opportunity for someone to step into his shoes. Back row is probably the one area of the pack where the Dragons have fewer problems. This migration of players seems to be affecting all regions ( except the scarlets apparently ). I wonder if Rog L. has a cunning plan to fix it or whether he even sees it as a problem. His team are still pulling 40K+ crowds at the MS so finances are not such a problem for him. We seem to be in a vacuum at the moment. silurix
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1:10pm Wed 5 Dec 12

arvinda strop says...

The last person you would expect to seccum to the jingle, him being such a well rounded and down to earth farm boy.
But as you say you can not condem him for going and all the very best to you Dan I hope it goes well for you.

We will be down to two regions before long the way things are going,

The hope that people will continue to put there hands in there pockets to watch the regions when all the top welsh players are in france will be a distant memory before long.
Stay at home buy a six pack and sit and watch them get tatered by all an sundry now that is the way forward for rugby in wales
The last person you would expect to seccum to the jingle, him being such a well rounded and down to earth farm boy. But as you say you can not condem him for going and all the very best to you Dan I hope it goes well for you. We will be down to two regions before long the way things are going, The hope that people will continue to put there hands in there pockets to watch the regions when all the top welsh players are in france will be a distant memory before long. Stay at home buy a six pack and sit and watch them get tatered by all an sundry now that is the way forward for rugby in wales arvinda strop
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1:16pm Wed 5 Dec 12

dalesman1666 says...

Dans a top player and will only get better by playing for a top team.
He will not be alone, let the exodus begin.
Dans a top player and will only get better by playing for a top team. He will not be alone, let the exodus begin. dalesman1666
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1:16pm Wed 5 Dec 12

SWBorderer says...

Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season.

I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess.

Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad.
Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season. I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess. Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad. SWBorderer
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1:19pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

The new PRGB is supposed to address many of the problems facing regional rugby in Wales. There is one question about this new body that hasn't been talked about yet, how much will this cost, nine persons plus venues to pay for unless of course they do it for free? When will it start up and how long before it does any good if at all. Meanwhile the regions must struggle on. I ask yet again when will some of the money from the four internationals be shared with the regions to help pay for better players to. Come in and for the retention of existing quality players.
The new PRGB is supposed to address many of the problems facing regional rugby in Wales. There is one question about this new body that hasn't been talked about yet, how much will this cost, nine persons plus venues to pay for unless of course they do it for free? When will it start up and how long before it does any good if at all. Meanwhile the regions must struggle on. I ask yet again when will some of the money from the four internationals be shared with the regions to help pay for better players to. Come in and for the retention of existing quality players. Robert Shillabeer
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3:01pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Dai the Milk says...

SWBorderer wrote:
Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season.

I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess.

Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad.
Excellent post. All predicted. Things can only get worse now. It serves the WRU right. I just feel for the real supporters and aspiring players. What a mess.
[quote][p][bold]SWBorderer[/bold] wrote: Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season. I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess. Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. All predicted. Things can only get worse now. It serves the WRU right. I just feel for the real supporters and aspiring players. What a mess. Dai the Milk
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3:53pm Wed 5 Dec 12

newport city of dreams says...

is it best to just go back to club rugby and forget about all of this region mess,
only time our regions did well was when the suger daddies where putting there hands in there pockets, now that has ceased where do we go with it.. scotland had to drop a region maybe thats what we need to do. at the end of the day our crowds are very small when you look at the likes of the irish and english regions/ teams.whole thing needs looking into but the wru are useless..
is it best to just go back to club rugby and forget about all of this region mess, only time our regions did well was when the suger daddies where putting there hands in there pockets, now that has ceased where do we go with it.. scotland had to drop a region maybe thats what we need to do. at the end of the day our crowds are very small when you look at the likes of the irish and english regions/ teams.whole thing needs looking into but the wru are useless.. newport city of dreams
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4:44pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Adrian Williams says...

rhinestine wrote:
He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ........... He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........ Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming.... Hope it goes well for you dan!
Rhinestine - football expert AND rugby agent. Wow, he knows everything - what a guy !
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote: He is off to Racing Metro.......you got it from me first ........... He was given 50,000 as a pre contract agreement, and will be paid in excess of 400,000 a season........ Can't blame him really!! All the best to him, a great servant to the dragons, if I were him, I would not bother with Wales, just make as much money as he can and retire to his farming.... Hope it goes well for you dan![/p][/quote]Rhinestine - football expert AND rugby agent. Wow, he knows everything - what a guy ! Adrian Williams
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4:50pm Wed 5 Dec 12

SWBorderer says...

Trouble is our club rugby could not survive in the professional rugby world. When this system was set up we had one chance to get it right but with so many people looking after their own self interests it's was doomed from the start.

I will support the Dragons because that is my only option in professional rugby, but I make no secret that I am a Black and Amber through and through. I only wish Tony Brown had carried out his threat to take Newport into the English league, at least there would have been decent rugby at one ground in South Wales, and I'm prepared to bet the crowds would have turned up to watch it.
Trouble is our club rugby could not survive in the professional rugby world. When this system was set up we had one chance to get it right but with so many people looking after their own self interests it's was doomed from the start. I will support the Dragons because that is my only option in professional rugby, but I make no secret that I am a Black and Amber through and through. I only wish Tony Brown had carried out his threat to take Newport into the English league, at least there would have been decent rugby at one ground in South Wales, and I'm prepared to bet the crowds would have turned up to watch it. SWBorderer
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6:25pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

SWBorderer wrote:
Trouble is our club rugby could not survive in the professional rugby world. When this system was set up we had one chance to get it right but with so many people looking after their own self interests it's was doomed from the start.

I will support the Dragons because that is my only option in professional rugby, but I make no secret that I am a Black and Amber through and through. I only wish Tony Brown had carried out his threat to take Newport into the English league, at least there would have been decent rugby at one ground in South Wales, and I'm prepared to bet the crowds would have turned up to watch it.
Thought you lived in England and couldn't get to many games? If your like me and many Dragons fans who do go to every game you would know how vibrant the support is. If it was bigger that would be great so let's hope it does grow. Glad Newport stayed inside the Welsh rugby set up as they are after all a founding club. The group who stand and chant from the Hazzel enclosure show what being a Dragons supporter is all about passion and drive by the bucket load. How the new talking shop s going to improve the viability of the four regions will be interesting to see, but I'm worried it will simply turn out to be an expensive talking shop.
[quote][p][bold]SWBorderer[/bold] wrote: Trouble is our club rugby could not survive in the professional rugby world. When this system was set up we had one chance to get it right but with so many people looking after their own self interests it's was doomed from the start. I will support the Dragons because that is my only option in professional rugby, but I make no secret that I am a Black and Amber through and through. I only wish Tony Brown had carried out his threat to take Newport into the English league, at least there would have been decent rugby at one ground in South Wales, and I'm prepared to bet the crowds would have turned up to watch it.[/p][/quote]Thought you lived in England and couldn't get to many games? If your like me and many Dragons fans who do go to every game you would know how vibrant the support is. If it was bigger that would be great so let's hope it does grow. Glad Newport stayed inside the Welsh rugby set up as they are after all a founding club. The group who stand and chant from the Hazzel enclosure show what being a Dragons supporter is all about passion and drive by the bucket load. How the new talking shop s going to improve the viability of the four regions will be interesting to see, but I'm worried it will simply turn out to be an expensive talking shop. Robert Shillabeer
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7:17pm Wed 5 Dec 12

ljg says...

Dai the Milk wrote:
SWBorderer wrote: Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season. I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess. Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad.
Excellent post. All predicted. Things can only get worse now. It serves the WRU right. I just feel for the real supporters and aspiring players. What a mess.
have to agree,
[quote][p][bold]Dai the Milk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SWBorderer[/bold] wrote: Good Luck Dan, go with our best wishes. When that sort of money is available you have to be mental to turn it down. I wouldn't worry even about availability for Wales, it's up to the WRU to stop organising games outside the agreed timetables. Look where their greed for cash has ended us this season. I fear that the whole rugby set up in Wales is teetering on the edge of oblivion, the new deal between the WRU and the Regions sounds good but words are easy, it needs drastic action now from a bunch of new faces, not the same people who got us into this mess. Having grown up and played in an area that was a hotbed of British rugby, with fiercely competitive local rivalries, clubs taking on touring sides and whole communities centred on the local rugby club, how in the name of God have we allowed it to all fall apart so quickly. Very, very sad.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. All predicted. Things can only get worse now. It serves the WRU right. I just feel for the real supporters and aspiring players. What a mess.[/p][/quote]have to agree, ljg
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7:31pm Wed 5 Dec 12

iscaman says...

Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.
Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us. iscaman
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8:09pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

iscaman wrote:
Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.
Interesting thought, don't go for any Welsh qualified international players so we don't have players away for two or three months of the season on chill trips to Poland, and Welsh camps twice a year. Does raise the thought that if we had our best players available for the entire season we could do better. In Soccer the premiership teams don't play when England have international games so perhaps that could be an avenue for Welsh regional sides, i.e. international matches no regional matches, could go along with that as we would still have Premiership games and local games to support. Wonder if that could be the first agenda item for the new Professional Regional Game Board to consider???
[quote][p][bold]iscaman[/bold] wrote: Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.[/p][/quote]Interesting thought, don't go for any Welsh qualified international players so we don't have players away for two or three months of the season on chill trips to Poland, and Welsh camps twice a year. Does raise the thought that if we had our best players available for the entire season we could do better. In Soccer the premiership teams don't play when England have international games so perhaps that could be an avenue for Welsh regional sides, i.e. international matches no regional matches, could go along with that as we would still have Premiership games and local games to support. Wonder if that could be the first agenda item for the new Professional Regional Game Board to consider??? Robert Shillabeer
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9:38pm Wed 5 Dec 12

SWBorderer says...

iscaman wrote:
Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.
Can't criticise a man for looking after his future, tell me you wouldn't do the same job you're doing now in a better climate, in better conditions and for three times the money. Loyalty went out the window when the cheque book came in.
I do think we should be looking at recruiting outside of Wales in certain key positions to give the team some stability. I would also like to see the autumn internationals reduced to at least three, preferably two.
Making the league more competitive would be a positive step, even if we do lose the chance of qualification until we're good enough to stand up against the big boys, I see no value in getting stuffed every year.
[quote][p][bold]iscaman[/bold] wrote: Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.[/p][/quote]Can't criticise a man for looking after his future, tell me you wouldn't do the same job you're doing now in a better climate, in better conditions and for three times the money. Loyalty went out the window when the cheque book came in. I do think we should be looking at recruiting outside of Wales in certain key positions to give the team some stability. I would also like to see the autumn internationals reduced to at least three, preferably two. Making the league more competitive would be a positive step, even if we do lose the chance of qualification until we're good enough to stand up against the big boys, I see no value in getting stuffed every year. SWBorderer
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9:45pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Keith Barnett says...

I predicted that we would be down to 2 teams a while ago
The money ain't there - simples
I predicted that we would be down to 2 teams a while ago The money ain't there - simples Keith Barnett
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9:56pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Euwan Usami says...

SWBorderer wrote:
iscaman wrote:
Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.
Can't criticise a man for looking after his future, tell me you wouldn't do the same job you're doing now in a better climate, in better conditions and for three times the money. Loyalty went out the window when the cheque book came in.
I do think we should be looking at recruiting outside of Wales in certain key positions to give the team some stability. I would also like to see the autumn internationals reduced to at least three, preferably two.
Making the league more competitive would be a positive step, even if we do lose the chance of qualification until we're good enough to stand up against the big boys, I see no value in getting stuffed every year.
Autumn internationals are about paying the bills period really which is why the players didn't get up first the first two imo. If you reduce the matches you reduce the income and therefore the WRU contribution to Welsh rugby. We are promised investment for next season at the Dragons so we may see an improvement. Personally I would like to see a team full of foreigners that stay with us and can't be called up for international duty. Let's at least stop the regional season when the internationals are on and rather than play weakened sides why not play all the regional regulars, promising youngsters and back ups in the premiership to strengthen it and attract larger crowds there.
[quote][p][bold]SWBorderer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iscaman[/bold] wrote: Hang on folks...Dan is just another greedy player,who says on tv what he wants you to believe...farmer giles i am ...lol...and forgets the dragons got him through his neck problems...plus he never plays for the Dragons these days,he is no where world class when he turns up ,so let him go...don't thank him ...he should thank NGD...but i think they are glad to get rid of his wage bill....sign decent,hard foreign players to win regional rugby..central contracts will kill rugby like it has done cricket...god help us.[/p][/quote]Can't criticise a man for looking after his future, tell me you wouldn't do the same job you're doing now in a better climate, in better conditions and for three times the money. Loyalty went out the window when the cheque book came in. I do think we should be looking at recruiting outside of Wales in certain key positions to give the team some stability. I would also like to see the autumn internationals reduced to at least three, preferably two. Making the league more competitive would be a positive step, even if we do lose the chance of qualification until we're good enough to stand up against the big boys, I see no value in getting stuffed every year.[/p][/quote]Autumn internationals are about paying the bills period really which is why the players didn't get up first the first two imo. If you reduce the matches you reduce the income and therefore the WRU contribution to Welsh rugby. We are promised investment for next season at the Dragons so we may see an improvement. Personally I would like to see a team full of foreigners that stay with us and can't be called up for international duty. Let's at least stop the regional season when the internationals are on and rather than play weakened sides why not play all the regional regulars, promising youngsters and back ups in the premiership to strengthen it and attract larger crowds there. Euwan Usami
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1:02am Thu 6 Dec 12

WelshRugbyFan says...

Fair play i have to laugh at some of these comments ... Good luck Dan. Wishing him all the best, Can't blame him etc etc ... what would have the comments been if he had gone to another welsh region?

Luke and Aled had the same send off in the comment's when they announced their departures to foreign climes but when Tovey announced he was leaving to go to another region (at least he stayed in Wales) he was crucified!

At the end of the day it's the same as any other job if your offered a better financial package doing the same job at another club/workplace anyone and i mean anyone would take the better offer ... if you were offered more cash to do the same job elsewhere what would you do?

The Dragons unfortunately have been in a deep decline for years and it won't get any better as more talented players will leave for better offers in foreign climes ... they can get the same or better financial deals playing in the 2nd tier leagues across the bridge and the channel than in Wales, they get spotted by bigger clubs signed and then they are made ... until they sort the mess out that is Regional Rugby nothing will change!

and another gripe i have with the regions and WRU is ... ticket prices for mediocre regional games... if they dropped the price of ticket's they will get a lot more supporters in who will then be spending money on drinks in the bar, on match day program's, in the club shop on merchandise (there's your revenue)

Parents who are struggling at the moment may treat their kids to a day out when affordable ... those kids then become avid fans and grow up supporting these teams ... these are the future fans that need to be encouraged into the grounds... but the WRU and Regions are determined to price out fans and would rather have their teams playing in front of 3000-4000 (if lucky) instead of sellout crowds!

International ticket prices ... extortionate! i can remember when you thought you won the pools (lotto) when you managed to get a ticket ... these days you can pick them up easily if wanted at the checkout in Tesco for instance ... but to pay £60 - £100+ for a ticket these day's beggar's belief!

Even when Wales were at their worst it was always a sell out crowd... 56000 supporters for the Aussie match ... never thought i'd see the day when that wouldn't sell out!

WAKE UP WRU the supporters are trying to tell you something!
Fair play i have to laugh at some of these comments ... Good luck Dan. Wishing him all the best, Can't blame him etc etc ... what would have the comments been if he had gone to another welsh region? Luke and Aled had the same send off in the comment's when they announced their departures to foreign climes but when Tovey announced he was leaving to go to another region (at least he stayed in Wales) he was crucified! At the end of the day it's the same as any other job if your offered a better financial package doing the same job at another club/workplace anyone and i mean anyone would take the better offer ... if you were offered more cash to do the same job elsewhere what would you do? The Dragons unfortunately have been in a deep decline for years and it won't get any better as more talented players will leave for better offers in foreign climes ... they can get the same or better financial deals playing in the 2nd tier leagues across the bridge and the channel than in Wales, they get spotted by bigger clubs signed and then they are made ... until they sort the mess out that is Regional Rugby nothing will change! and another gripe i have with the regions and WRU is ... ticket prices for mediocre regional games... if they dropped the price of ticket's they will get a lot more supporters in who will then be spending money on drinks in the bar, on match day program's, in the club shop on merchandise (there's your revenue) Parents who are struggling at the moment may treat their kids to a day out when affordable ... those kids then become avid fans and grow up supporting these teams ... these are the future fans that need to be encouraged into the grounds... but the WRU and Regions are determined to price out fans and would rather have their teams playing in front of 3000-4000 (if lucky) instead of sellout crowds! International ticket prices ... extortionate! i can remember when you thought you won the pools (lotto) when you managed to get a ticket ... these days you can pick them up easily if wanted at the checkout in Tesco for instance ... but to pay £60 - £100+ for a ticket these day's beggar's belief! Even when Wales were at their worst it was always a sell out crowd... 56000 supporters for the Aussie match ... never thought i'd see the day when that wouldn't sell out! WAKE UP WRU the supporters are trying to tell you something! WelshRugbyFan
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5:42am Thu 6 Dec 12

the dork says...

not happy bunnies
not happy bunnies the dork
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10:44am Thu 6 Dec 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

WelshRugbyFan wrote:
Fair play i have to laugh at some of these comments ... Good luck Dan. Wishing him all the best, Can't blame him etc etc ... what would have the comments been if he had gone to another welsh region?

Luke and Aled had the same send off in the comment's when they announced their departures to foreign climes but when Tovey announced he was leaving to go to another region (at least he stayed in Wales) he was crucified!

At the end of the day it's the same as any other job if your offered a better financial package doing the same job at another club/workplace anyone and i mean anyone would take the better offer ... if you were offered more cash to do the same job elsewhere what would you do?

The Dragons unfortunately have been in a deep decline for years and it won't get any better as more talented players will leave for better offers in foreign climes ... they can get the same or better financial deals playing in the 2nd tier leagues across the bridge and the channel than in Wales, they get spotted by bigger clubs signed and then they are made ... until they sort the mess out that is Regional Rugby nothing will change!

and another gripe i have with the regions and WRU is ... ticket prices for mediocre regional games... if they dropped the price of ticket's they will get a lot more supporters in who will then be spending money on drinks in the bar, on match day program's, in the club shop on merchandise (there's your revenue)

Parents who are struggling at the moment may treat their kids to a day out when affordable ... those kids then become avid fans and grow up supporting these teams ... these are the future fans that need to be encouraged into the grounds... but the WRU and Regions are determined to price out fans and would rather have their teams playing in front ofYour right on international ticket prices, you have to buy them through a booking agency along with a booking fee so the agency makes £2 or more on every ticket sold. On Regional prices you are quite wrong with the old argument of cut the price and more will attend. Say for instance you halve the ticket price, you need to double your ticket sales simply to get the same revenue, if you only gain an extra say 20% supporters you lose 30% of your normal income. You need to at least double you support to gain anything. The answer is to get the wins coming in and the interest will rise as will the numbers going through the turnstiles.
[quote][p][bold]WelshRugbyFan[/bold] wrote: Fair play i have to laugh at some of these comments ... Good luck Dan. Wishing him all the best, Can't blame him etc etc ... what would have the comments been if he had gone to another welsh region? Luke and Aled had the same send off in the comment's when they announced their departures to foreign climes but when Tovey announced he was leaving to go to another region (at least he stayed in Wales) he was crucified! At the end of the day it's the same as any other job if your offered a better financial package doing the same job at another club/workplace anyone and i mean anyone would take the better offer ... if you were offered more cash to do the same job elsewhere what would you do? The Dragons unfortunately have been in a deep decline for years and it won't get any better as more talented players will leave for better offers in foreign climes ... they can get the same or better financial deals playing in the 2nd tier leagues across the bridge and the channel than in Wales, they get spotted by bigger clubs signed and then they are made ... until they sort the mess out that is Regional Rugby nothing will change! and another gripe i have with the regions and WRU is ... ticket prices for mediocre regional games... if they dropped the price of ticket's they will get a lot more supporters in who will then be spending money on drinks in the bar, on match day program's, in the club shop on merchandise (there's your revenue) Parents who are struggling at the moment may treat their kids to a day out when affordable ... those kids then become avid fans and grow up supporting these teams ... these are the future fans that need to be encouraged into the grounds... but the WRU and Regions are determined to price out fans and would rather have their teams playing in front ofYour right on international ticket prices, you have to buy them through a booking agency along with a booking fee so the agency makes £2 or more on every ticket sold. On Regional prices you are quite wrong with the old argument of cut the price and more will attend. Say for instance you halve the ticket price, you need to double your ticket sales simply to get the same revenue, if you only gain an extra say 20% supporters you lose 30% of your normal income. You need to at least double you support to gain anything. The answer is to get the wins coming in and the interest will rise as will the numbers going through the turnstiles. Robert Shillabeer
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11:09am Thu 6 Dec 12

rightsideup says...

WRU-less means more-Try it!..
WRU-less means more-Try it!.. rightsideup
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4:59pm Thu 6 Dec 12

newport city of dreams says...

would the answer to falling gates to look at summer rugby, league seem to be doing well by it in england. at least we may get some more in the ground if the weather is better.
would the answer to falling gates to look at summer rugby, league seem to be doing well by it in england. at least we may get some more in the ground if the weather is better. newport city of dreams
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10:59am Fri 7 Dec 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

newport city of dreams wrote:
would the answer to falling gates to look at summer rugby, league seem to be doing well by it in england. at least we may get some more in the ground if the weather is better.
Interesting idea, but what would everyone have to moan about in the winter? They could become County supporters but I guess some already are.
[quote][p][bold]newport city of dreams[/bold] wrote: would the answer to falling gates to look at summer rugby, league seem to be doing well by it in england. at least we may get some more in the ground if the weather is better.[/p][/quote]Interesting idea, but what would everyone have to moan about in the winter? They could become County supporters but I guess some already are. Robert Shillabeer
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2:24pm Fri 7 Dec 12

pettsy says...

Oh dear me .What a bunch of unhappy Dragons you are.I need cheering up.So tomorrow I'm to pay 7 quid to watch great rugby, a winning team in front of a large crowd ,great atmosphere, and a good laugh in the clubhouse after the game.Where can this be,I hear you cry?Sounds like Ebbw to me, and yes it certainly is.See ya...
Oh dear me .What a bunch of unhappy Dragons you are.I need cheering up.So tomorrow I'm to pay 7 quid to watch great rugby, a winning team in front of a large crowd ,great atmosphere, and a good laugh in the clubhouse after the game.Where can this be,I hear you cry?Sounds like Ebbw to me, and yes it certainly is.See ya... pettsy
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3:17pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Shillabeers nemesis says...

A new coach, benefactor and a heineken cup place would solve most of the regions troubles.
A new coach, benefactor and a heineken cup place would solve most of the regions troubles. Shillabeers nemesis
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5:53pm Fri 7 Dec 12

risca dragon says...

thats it for me im off
thats it for me im off risca dragon
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