Dragons 13 Bath 30

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NEWPORT Gwent Dragons went down to their third home defeat of the season after Bath cruised into the quarter-finals of the Amlin Challenge Cup at Rodney Parade.

The English side are going great guns in the Aviva Premiership and their second-string maintained the momentum with a routine 30-13 win.

It was the first of two demolition jobs in Newport with the city centre Capitol Car Park ready to be downed by explosives tomorrow morning to make way for the Friars Walk development.

Bath rested a host of big guns but showed that they boast real strength in depth to join Leinster and Munster as winners at Rodney Parade this term.

The Dragons, however, were shocking and the gulf in class between the sides was alarming.

They have made real improvements under Lyn Jones to sit sixth in the RaboDirect Pro12 this season but they were back to their old tricks in their worst display of the campaign.

It was a performance that will have done little to convince the Aviva Premiership that the regions would add value to their tournament.

The Dragons were toothless and sloppy in attack while their defence was abysmal with a raft of poor decisions and a sky-high count for missed tackles.

It was nip and tuck at half-time when the sides met at the Rec but it was game over when they headed for the break at Rodney Parade.

Bath had their bonus point in the bag after just 31 minutes when number eight Leroy Houston added to scores by scrum-half Micky Young, wing Tom Biggs and flanker Mat Gilbert.

All the Dragons could muster was a pair of penalties by Steffan Jones that made it 27-6 at half-time after an awful first 40 minutes that also saw fly-half Jason Tovey and wing Tom Prydie helped from the field after suffering leg injuries.

The game was gone but thankfully the second half was better from a Dragons point of view.

Openside Nic Cudd sneaked over following a spirited break by full-back Dan Evans and the hosts bossed territory and possession against a Bath side that had already got the job done.

The Dragons were still, however, hindered by errors that prevented them from putting the Englishmen under any real pressure and the game died a slow death.

Dragons scorers: try – N Cudd; conversion – S Jones; penalties – S Jones (2)

Bath scorers: tries – M Young, T Biggs, M Gilbert, L Houston; conversions – T Heathcote (2); penalties – T Heathcote

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5:56pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Euwan Usami says...

Yeah, dead rubber may go partway to explain the Dragons poor performance but it wasn't pretty out there. Bath played some good stuff I'm the first half but switched off in the second and the game ground to a halt. This was a s cold string Bath side. I watched their first string get absolutely smashed by Northants over the Xmas period. Just as well we haven't got them next eh? Oh wait...

On a serious note, are we really ready for the Aviva? If I am honest I don't thinkwe would be in it very long.
Yeah, dead rubber may go partway to explain the Dragons poor performance but it wasn't pretty out there. Bath played some good stuff I'm the first half but switched off in the second and the game ground to a halt. This was a s cold string Bath side. I watched their first string get absolutely smashed by Northants over the Xmas period. Just as well we haven't got them next eh? Oh wait... On a serious note, are we really ready for the Aviva? If I am honest I don't thinkwe would be in it very long. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 7

6:38pm Sat 11 Jan 14

phantom14 says...

As I have said before i do not think we have improved much, it is just that the other Welsh regions have got worse!!
As I have said before i do not think we have improved much, it is just that the other Welsh regions have got worse!! phantom14
  • Score: 3

6:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Welshman76 says...

Worst performance of the season, let's hope it's a one off as this season has been going in the right direction so far.
Worst performance of the season, let's hope it's a one off as this season has been going in the right direction so far. Welshman76
  • Score: 8

7:19pm Sat 11 Jan 14

blackandamber says...

The Dragons never left the starting blocks very disappointing. If the coaches think its a dead rubber then put our academy players in to give them experience. A pity a good sized crowd let down again.
The Dragons never left the starting blocks very disappointing. If the coaches think its a dead rubber then put our academy players in to give them experience. A pity a good sized crowd let down again. blackandamber
  • Score: 8

9:31pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.
A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Euwan Usami says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.
I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue.
There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us;

First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens"
Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think"
First "Not a very good side though"
Second "No"

Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.[/p][/quote]I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue. There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us; First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens" Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think" First "Not a very good side though" Second "No" Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 5

11:17pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
Robert Shillabeer wrote:
A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.
I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue.
There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us;

First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens"
Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think"
First "Not a very good side though"
Second "No"

Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva.
I had two suggestions as to the nationality of the ref one said French the other said Italian. I accept he was French but he was so poor even the French will disown him on that VERY VERY POOR performance.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.[/p][/quote]I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue. There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us; First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens" Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think" First "Not a very good side though" Second "No" Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva.[/p][/quote]I had two suggestions as to the nationality of the ref one said French the other said Italian. I accept he was French but he was so poor even the French will disown him on that VERY VERY POOR performance. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 1

7:37am Sun 12 Jan 14

East Newport Dave says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
Robert Shillabeer wrote:
A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.
I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue.
There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us;

First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens"
Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think"
First "Not a very good side though"
Second "No"

Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva.
I had two suggestions as to the nationality of the ref one said French the other said Italian. I accept he was French but he was so poor even the French will disown him on that VERY VERY POOR performance.
Here we go again blaming the ref! The Dragons conceded 4 tries before half-time!!
I could not be there to see it, thankfully, but what has the referee to do with what was clearly a capitulation at home. Whatever the fixture, the Dragons should never be humbled like that on their own turf. I'm sure that Lyn and Kingsley will be seething.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.[/p][/quote]I agree the ref wasn't great (He's French by the way but you probably have your tongue in your cheek again). Bernard Laport has really slated him in the past his poor decisions. To say he was a deciding factor though is just untrue. There were two Bath supporters on the way out behind us; First "Been alot of ground improvements here it seens" Second "Yeah, new pitch too from the FA I think" First "Not a very good side though" Second "No" Sad really because we CAN play alot better and will need to do if we consider going anywhere near the Aviva.[/p][/quote]I had two suggestions as to the nationality of the ref one said French the other said Italian. I accept he was French but he was so poor even the French will disown him on that VERY VERY POOR performance.[/p][/quote]Here we go again blaming the ref! The Dragons conceded 4 tries before half-time!! I could not be there to see it, thankfully, but what has the referee to do with what was clearly a capitulation at home. Whatever the fixture, the Dragons should never be humbled like that on their own turf. I'm sure that Lyn and Kingsley will be seething. East Newport Dave
  • Score: 6

7:38am Sun 12 Jan 14

East Newport Dave says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.
Here we go again blaming the ref! The Dragons conceded 4 tries before half-time!!
I could not be there to see it, thankfully, but what has the referee to do with what was clearly a capitulation at home. Whatever the fixture, the Dragons should never be humbled like that on their own turf. I'm sure that Lyn and Kingsley will be seething.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: A poor performance yes but it was made far worse by an awful ref. he missed at least one forward pass which was a long yard forward and the number of times Bath were off side I lost count. Did he forget his yellow cards as there at least two sendings off he missed. The near side prop was pulling down all game and only got penalised once. The Dragons were poor value but the ref was far worse, typical Italian ref, and the touch judges were far behind the game they were almost not there. Very poor all round.[/p][/quote]Here we go again blaming the ref! The Dragons conceded 4 tries before half-time!! I could not be there to see it, thankfully, but what has the referee to do with what was clearly a capitulation at home. Whatever the fixture, the Dragons should never be humbled like that on their own turf. I'm sure that Lyn and Kingsley will be seething. East Newport Dave
  • Score: 0

10:58am Sun 12 Jan 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

Hi guys, just read the report in the Western Mail, it reads like a report from the battle of the Som, Tovey, Coombsy, and Pridiy all crocked which resulted in the rest having to make up the attack. It fell short by a wide margin. Coupled with what no can argue a very poor ref who seemed very overawed by the game the result was never in doubts just a word on refs in General, when is someone going to take these guys in hand and insist they are good enough for this level of rugby? There are perhaps three refs good enough to officiate at the moment the rest are spoiling the game as a spectacle. Any answers pleas.
Hi guys, just read the report in the Western Mail, it reads like a report from the battle of the Som, Tovey, Coombsy, and Pridiy all crocked which resulted in the rest having to make up the attack. It fell short by a wide margin. Coupled with what no can argue a very poor ref who seemed very overawed by the game the result was never in doubts just a word on refs in General, when is someone going to take these guys in hand and insist they are good enough for this level of rugby? There are perhaps three refs good enough to officiate at the moment the rest are spoiling the game as a spectacle. Any answers pleas. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: -2

9:23am Mon 13 Jan 14

East Newport Dave says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
Hi guys, just read the report in the Western Mail, it reads like a report from the battle of the Som, Tovey, Coombsy, and Pridiy all crocked which resulted in the rest having to make up the attack. It fell short by a wide margin. Coupled with what no can argue a very poor ref who seemed very overawed by the game the result was never in doubts just a word on refs in General, when is someone going to take these guys in hand and insist they are good enough for this level of rugby? There are perhaps three refs good enough to officiate at the moment the rest are spoiling the game as a spectacle. Any answers pleas.
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[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: Hi guys, just read the report in the Western Mail, it reads like a report from the battle of the Som, Tovey, Coombsy, and Pridiy all crocked which resulted in the rest having to make up the attack. It fell short by a wide margin. Coupled with what no can argue a very poor ref who seemed very overawed by the game the result was never in doubts just a word on refs in General, when is someone going to take these guys in hand and insist they are good enough for this level of rugby? There are perhaps three refs good enough to officiate at the moment the rest are spoiling the game as a spectacle. Any answers pleas.[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz! East Newport Dave
  • Score: 0

11:14am Mon 13 Jan 14

silurix says...

There are no answers to the "Referee" problem. They are what they are. There is no pool of talented refs waiting to be tapped so we have to make do with what is available. Its the same for all teams so the problem is mitigated to a certain extent. As long as they favour neither side with their incompetence that's the best we can hope for. They may favour what they see as the "stronger" team in 50:50 situations but as the stronger team is more likely to win anyway it shouldn't affect the result. Its not a great position to be in but I can see no feasible solution except to play well enough so that the ref is eliminated as a factor in the outcome. Playing well enough is something that we do have some control over - the ref is not.
We all know that the Dragons are not there yet - so below par performances are to be expected. If they win as many games in the 2nd half of the season as the first then they will finish mid-table. I'll settle for that as a stepping stone to something better.
There are no answers to the "Referee" problem. They are what they are. There is no pool of talented refs waiting to be tapped so we have to make do with what is available. Its the same for all teams so the problem is mitigated to a certain extent. As long as they favour neither side with their incompetence that's the best we can hope for. They may favour what they see as the "stronger" team in 50:50 situations but as the stronger team is more likely to win anyway it shouldn't affect the result. Its not a great position to be in but I can see no feasible solution except to play well enough so that the ref is eliminated as a factor in the outcome. Playing well enough is something that we do have some control over - the ref is not. We all know that the Dragons are not there yet - so below par performances are to be expected. If they win as many games in the 2nd half of the season as the first then they will finish mid-table. I'll settle for that as a stepping stone to something better. silurix
  • Score: 2

12:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Geater says...

Dragons gave us a really good game at The Rec, the win wasn't secured until 70 minutes or so. For that reason, I was disappointed that it wasn't more of a contest on Saturday.

Was my first visit to RP and hopefully won't be my last. Good luck to Dragons for the rest of the Pro12 season.
Dragons gave us a really good game at The Rec, the win wasn't secured until 70 minutes or so. For that reason, I was disappointed that it wasn't more of a contest on Saturday. Was my first visit to RP and hopefully won't be my last. Good luck to Dragons for the rest of the Pro12 season. Geater
  • Score: 5

12:26pm Thu 16 Jan 14

foxy3rd says...

A shockinly poor performance against an understrength Bath side.
OK the officials were poor but they almost always go with the strongest side.
When will Tovey learn to take an.interedt in the game and concentrate
A shockinly poor performance against an understrength Bath side. OK the officials were poor but they almost always go with the strongest side. When will Tovey learn to take an.interedt in the game and concentrate foxy3rd
  • Score: 0

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