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Campaign Series: LATE TRY: Jevon Groves scored a cracker at the death LATE TRY: Jevon Groves scored a cracker at the death

NEWPORT Gwent Dragons escaped with a share of the spoils against RaboDirect Pro12 bottom club Zebre thanks to a magnificent solo try by supersub Jevon Groves.

The flanker spotted a gap at a ruck with three minutes left and dashed over from 25 metres thanks to a combination of gas and a neat dummy.

That left Jason Tovey with a tricky conversion from the right and the fly-half nailed it to deny their hosts at the Stadio XXV Aprile.

The Dragons had headed into the game looking to strike back after heavy defeats to Ulster and Connacht.

And while they didn’t get a win to keep alive their hopes of a top-half finish, Lyn Jones’ men at least showed character to salvage a draw against their spirited hosts.

The Dragons enjoyed a slender 15-13 lead at the break courtesy of tries by full-back Dan Evans and centre Ashley Smith but Italy fly-half Luciano Orquera punished them with the boot in the second half.

He looked set to be the match-winner thanks to his 17-point haul only for the Dragons to strike at the death to avoid coming a cropper in Parma like Cardiff Blues.

The hosts were first to strike when they took advantage of a yellow card for number eight Taulupe Faletau for stopping a driving lineout by coming in at the side after 16 minutes.

Zebre piled the pressure on and back row forward Samuela Vunisa powered over from scrum-half Brendon Leonard’s flat pass.

Luciano Orquera converted but back came the 14-man Dragons and full-back Dan Evans crossed down the right from fly-half Jason Tovey’s pass after outside centre Pat Leach had burst into the 22.

A long-range penalty by Italy centre Gonzalo Garcia extended the Zebre’s lead to 10-5 only for the visitors to strike back down the same flank in the 35th minute.

The Dragons piled the pressure on down in the 22 and captain Andrew Coombs’ smart offload after being dragged down just short enabled wing Tom Prydie to put centre Ashley Smith over.

Tovey converted and then traded penalties with Orquera for a two-point lead at the break.

It continued to be nip and tuck in the second half with the lead changing hands thanks to the boots of the fly-halves.

Orquera made it 16-15 after 47 minutes only for Tovey to respond on 54 but a quickfire pair of Zebre penalties meant that the Dragons were chasing the game in the final quarter.

And when the 32-year-old number 10 bisected the posts to make it 25-18 with seven minutes left, the Dragons knew that a fourth successive win against the Italians was unlikely.

Instead they were chasing a share of the spoils and it was Groves that got them that just minutes after replacing flanker Lewis Evans.

Zebre: G Palazzani, L Sarto, T Iannone, G Garcia (K Ratuvou 56, D Odiete 79), D Berryman (G Venditti 56), L Orquera, B Leonard, S Perugini (M Aguero 40), D Giazzon (T D’Apice 62), D Ryan (D Chistolini 40), Q Geldenhuys, M Bortolami (captain, M Van Vuuren 40), F Ferrarini, A Van Schalkwyk, S Vunisa.

Scorers: try – S Vunisa; conversion – L Orquera; penalties – G Garcia, L Orquera (5) Dragons: D Evans, T Prydie (H Amos 78), P Leach, A Smith (J Dixon 36), W Harries, J Tovey, R Rees (W Evans 70), P Price (B Douglas 63), E Dee (S Parry 72), D Bell (N Buck 51-79), A Coombs (captain), M Screech (C Hill 63), L Evans (J Groves 73), N Cudd, T Faletau.

Scorers: tries – D Evans, A Smith, J Groves; conversions – J Tovey (2); penalties – J Tovey (2)

Referee: Peter Fitzgibbon (Ireland)

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7:00pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.
Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign. Mr Bump.
  • Score: -14

7:10pm Sat 29 Mar 14

b3talover says...

Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition.
Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition. b3talover
  • Score: -14

7:13pm Sat 29 Mar 14

phantom14 says...

This is their level I am afraid!! Expectations need to be lowered
This is their level I am afraid!! Expectations need to be lowered phantom14
  • Score: -12

8:34pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz.
I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 6

8:52pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

Guys the BBC said that Zebra were luck but the Argus says the Dragons scored to level it. Perhaps the Argus had a reported there, interesting to see which is correct.
Guys the BBC said that Zebra were luck but the Argus says the Dragons scored to level it. Perhaps the Argus had a reported there, interesting to see which is correct. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 0

8:53pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.
I suppose the Bump is on your head then.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.[/p][/quote]I suppose the Bump is on your head then. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 7

10:38pm Sat 29 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz.
I'm not sure what is more shocking, the mediocre NGD's or your atrocious spelling. And it's the referee's fault again - what a joke you are. One day you'll wake from your dreamy slumber and possibly have an epiphany, realising that the referee in fact wasn't to blame but in fact it was the poor team, led by a poor coach, led by poor management. You remind me of the moonies, who will follow the leader come-what-may.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure what is more shocking, the mediocre NGD's or your atrocious spelling. And it's the referee's fault again - what a joke you are. One day you'll wake from your dreamy slumber and possibly have an epiphany, realising that the referee in fact wasn't to blame but in fact it was the poor team, led by a poor coach, led by poor management. You remind me of the moonies, who will follow the leader come-what-may. DaiFrank
  • Score: -11

10:42pm Sat 29 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

b3talover wrote:
Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition.
Is this your attempt at humour? This is a draw of equals. Mediocre v Mediocre.
[quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition.[/p][/quote]Is this your attempt at humour? This is a draw of equals. Mediocre v Mediocre. DaiFrank
  • Score: -8

10:55pm Sat 29 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.
Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones will sleep well tonight because for him this is a major improvement on last week. Away to Zebre and a draw, now that's impressive! Maybe his approach, not to shout at players, worked. He reminds me of someone who is taking a mixture of laughing gas and termazepam and slightly detached from reality. Yes he should go and take Hazell with him.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.[/p][/quote]Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones will sleep well tonight because for him this is a major improvement on last week. Away to Zebre and a draw, now that's impressive! Maybe his approach, not to shout at players, worked. He reminds me of someone who is taking a mixture of laughing gas and termazepam and slightly detached from reality. Yes he should go and take Hazell with him. DaiFrank
  • Score: -7

10:55pm Sat 29 Mar 14

keithbob says...

dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again!
dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again! keithbob
  • Score: 1

12:51am Sun 30 Mar 14

Euwan Usami says...

keithbob wrote:
dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again!
Grasping at straws but the Blues lost home and away to Zebre this season. They turned up today with a good win v Ulster though. Credit where it's due.

I wouldn't pretend a draw at Zebre is a positive result though. Even if it we did score 3 tries to 1. It just isn't good enough for a team with any kind of ambition in the pro12. It's also fair to say the Dragons are made up of a core of premiership players and are probably overachieving to maintain mid table status. (For now at least).

It's also true that the wheels came off against connaught and the result was a huge disappointment for all those who wish the Dragons and Jones boys well.
For those who hope for more I wouldn't despair just yet though. Ignore the odd Internet troll who will constantly attempt to sow discord ad nausea. They have their own agendas and are hardly fair or open minded. It will take time for LJ and Co to get where he wants to be. It's clear the squad needs strengthening and this WILL happen. Next season will see a far stronger front 5 and a few quality backs added. There is still room for optimism, though we may need a little more patience than first hoped. ;)
[quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again![/p][/quote]Grasping at straws but the Blues lost home and away to Zebre this season. They turned up today with a good win v Ulster though. Credit where it's due. I wouldn't pretend a draw at Zebre is a positive result though. Even if it we did score 3 tries to 1. It just isn't good enough for a team with any kind of ambition in the pro12. It's also fair to say the Dragons are made up of a core of premiership players and are probably overachieving to maintain mid table status. (For now at least). It's also true that the wheels came off against connaught and the result was a huge disappointment for all those who wish the Dragons and Jones boys well. For those who hope for more I wouldn't despair just yet though. Ignore the odd Internet troll who will constantly attempt to sow discord ad nausea. They have their own agendas and are hardly fair or open minded. It will take time for LJ and Co to get where he wants to be. It's clear the squad needs strengthening and this WILL happen. Next season will see a far stronger front 5 and a few quality backs added. There is still room for optimism, though we may need a little more patience than first hoped. ;) Euwan Usami
  • Score: 17

3:06am Sun 30 Mar 14

b3talover says...

DaiFrank wrote:
b3talover wrote:
Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition.
Is this your attempt at humour? This is a draw of equals. Mediocre v Mediocre.
It is not a joke. Zebre will be disappointed that they didn't win against an inferior team currently punching well above its weight.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: Embarrassing!!!! I'm sure the Zebre coach will be absolutely fuming!!!! A draw against a mediocre development region!!? Not good enough! Zebre really need to win these easy games against poor opposition.[/p][/quote]Is this your attempt at humour? This is a draw of equals. Mediocre v Mediocre.[/p][/quote]It is not a joke. Zebre will be disappointed that they didn't win against an inferior team currently punching well above its weight. b3talover
  • Score: -7

5:24am Sun 30 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.
I suppose the Bump is on your head then.
I've been reading your drivel for years now. It's pathetic, back in the day you'd have knelt before Paul Turner. Grow a set for crying out loud.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Shameful. Lyn Jones should resign.[/p][/quote]I suppose the Bump is on your head then.[/p][/quote]I've been reading your drivel for years now. It's pathetic, back in the day you'd have knelt before Paul Turner. Grow a set for crying out loud. Mr Bump.
  • Score: -4

5:30am Sun 30 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this? Mr Bump.
  • Score: -12

8:15am Sun 30 Mar 14

CaptainB says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!! CaptainB
  • Score: -3

8:38am Sun 30 Mar 14

southend1 says...

Looking at some of the comments on here saddens me to a certain extent. The bigger picture in the Pro12 makes interesting reading when looked into. Some of the so called lesser teams seem to have marque players from the South Seas, NZ, SA etc. these are no ordinary players and so I would guess don't come cheap. Who pays for them? Just been reading that BT are sponsoring Scottish rugby and the message has gone to Glasgow and Edingburgh coaches that if they want a player to improve their teams then they will be paid for. Then you have the Irish teams with their tax breaks to stay in Ireland . With these types of things going on would many coaches want to take on the situation at The Dragons with their hands tied behind their backs money wise. Even other Welsh regions seem to sign players who would I guess cost a few bob ( wonder where that money comes from) WRU dabble dabble. Liberty stadium funding has been looked into by European Commission .Etc,Etc.
Looking at some of the comments on here saddens me to a certain extent. The bigger picture in the Pro12 makes interesting reading when looked into. Some of the so called lesser teams seem to have marque players from the South Seas, NZ, SA etc. these are no ordinary players and so I would guess don't come cheap. Who pays for them? Just been reading that BT are sponsoring Scottish rugby and the message has gone to Glasgow and Edingburgh coaches that if they want a player to improve their teams then they will be paid for. Then you have the Irish teams with their tax breaks to stay in Ireland . With these types of things going on would many coaches want to take on the situation at The Dragons with their hands tied behind their backs money wise. Even other Welsh regions seem to sign players who would I guess cost a few bob ( wonder where that money comes from) WRU dabble dabble. Liberty stadium funding has been looked into by European Commission .Etc,Etc. southend1
  • Score: 12

11:54am Sun 30 Mar 14

silurix says...

CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
[quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ). silurix
  • Score: 9

12:10pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

silurix wrote:
CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment?
[quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).[/p][/quote]You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment? Mr Bump.
  • Score: -6

1:11pm Sun 30 Mar 14

silurix says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
silurix wrote:
CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment?
you may be right - it may be the same old rubbish in 3 years time. You may be wrong. At this point in time , nobody knows for sure. I'm prepared to wait and see. Depends on your temperament I suppose. As a long time supporter of Welsh rugby I'm used to the experience of deferred gratification. It goes with the turf.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).[/p][/quote]You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment?[/p][/quote]you may be right - it may be the same old rubbish in 3 years time. You may be wrong. At this point in time , nobody knows for sure. I'm prepared to wait and see. Depends on your temperament I suppose. As a long time supporter of Welsh rugby I'm used to the experience of deferred gratification. It goes with the turf. silurix
  • Score: 11

10:01pm Sun 30 Mar 14

corpardguy says...

With one less penalty against what would he comments have been? I suspect the same from both sides of the equation so not much light but at least heat being generated. NGD work in progress, better coaching and better team and game management in place for sure. Better players on way and finances in order (to a great degree) . We are certainly better off than last year so I for one am prepared to wait at least until next season to see if the improvements continue. Can it get worse...... sure, but LJ and team have earned the right for time imho.
With one less penalty against what would he comments have been? I suspect the same from both sides of the equation so not much light but at least heat being generated. NGD work in progress, better coaching and better team and game management in place for sure. Better players on way and finances in order (to a great degree) . We are certainly better off than last year so I for one am prepared to wait at least until next season to see if the improvements continue. Can it get worse...... sure, but LJ and team have earned the right for time imho. corpardguy
  • Score: 8

10:12pm Sun 30 Mar 14

blackandamber says...

I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.
I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match. blackandamber
  • Score: 6

10:25pm Sun 30 Mar 14

East Newport Dave says...

Robert Shillabeer wrote:
I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz.
Robert, you really need to get away from this 'blame the ref' business. It is really dull!
[quote][p][bold]Robert Shillabeer[/bold] wrote: I had a feeling this would be a poor result as soon as I saw who the ref was. Fitzgibbon is for some reason very anti Gragons. Toby was yellow carded again by him and in my opinion there is something wrong with his reffing as we get at least one yellow everytime he is the ref, time it was raised at official level im afraid, hes very poor and I feel very bias. After last weeks game it was always going to be a bit careful and please remeber it was after nearly six minutes of added time that Zebra scored the try that level the score. The Dragons scored three ties to one so some at best dubiuos pena;ties kept them in the game. Will watch ScrunV with interest tomoz.[/p][/quote]Robert, you really need to get away from this 'blame the ref' business. It is really dull! East Newport Dave
  • Score: -1

10:29pm Sun 30 Mar 14

East Newport Dave says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
keithbob wrote:
dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again!
Grasping at straws but the Blues lost home and away to Zebre this season. They turned up today with a good win v Ulster though. Credit where it's due.

I wouldn't pretend a draw at Zebre is a positive result though. Even if it we did score 3 tries to 1. It just isn't good enough for a team with any kind of ambition in the pro12. It's also fair to say the Dragons are made up of a core of premiership players and are probably overachieving to maintain mid table status. (For now at least).

It's also true that the wheels came off against connaught and the result was a huge disappointment for all those who wish the Dragons and Jones boys well.
For those who hope for more I wouldn't despair just yet though. Ignore the odd Internet troll who will constantly attempt to sow discord ad nausea. They have their own agendas and are hardly fair or open minded. It will take time for LJ and Co to get where he wants to be. It's clear the squad needs strengthening and this WILL happen. Next season will see a far stronger front 5 and a few quality backs added. There is still room for optimism, though we may need a little more patience than first hoped. ;)
Well summed up! We have had a few seasons of inertia under Darren Edwards. Rugby Union moves forward rapidly and under Edwards the Dragons went backwards. Repairing the damage and lost ground ain't easy.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: dont really know what to add,thought this was going to be our time to show we are better than fourth welsh region,but here we are again,with the blouse winning and us stumbling to a draw against the worst team in the rabo,and that digraceful performance last week its now back to the bottom again![/p][/quote]Grasping at straws but the Blues lost home and away to Zebre this season. They turned up today with a good win v Ulster though. Credit where it's due. I wouldn't pretend a draw at Zebre is a positive result though. Even if it we did score 3 tries to 1. It just isn't good enough for a team with any kind of ambition in the pro12. It's also fair to say the Dragons are made up of a core of premiership players and are probably overachieving to maintain mid table status. (For now at least). It's also true that the wheels came off against connaught and the result was a huge disappointment for all those who wish the Dragons and Jones boys well. For those who hope for more I wouldn't despair just yet though. Ignore the odd Internet troll who will constantly attempt to sow discord ad nausea. They have their own agendas and are hardly fair or open minded. It will take time for LJ and Co to get where he wants to be. It's clear the squad needs strengthening and this WILL happen. Next season will see a far stronger front 5 and a few quality backs added. There is still room for optimism, though we may need a little more patience than first hoped. ;)[/p][/quote]Well summed up! We have had a few seasons of inertia under Darren Edwards. Rugby Union moves forward rapidly and under Edwards the Dragons went backwards. Repairing the damage and lost ground ain't easy. East Newport Dave
  • Score: 6

11:09pm Sun 30 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

silurix wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
silurix wrote:
CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment?
you may be right - it may be the same old rubbish in 3 years time. You may be wrong. At this point in time , nobody knows for sure. I'm prepared to wait and see. Depends on your temperament I suppose. As a long time supporter of Welsh rugby I'm used to the experience of deferred gratification. It goes with the turf.
Oh dear, you poor sod. Are you into self-flagellating also?
[quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).[/p][/quote]You want to put up with this rubbish for another 3 years? Are you mad or a glutton for punishment?[/p][/quote]you may be right - it may be the same old rubbish in 3 years time. You may be wrong. At this point in time , nobody knows for sure. I'm prepared to wait and see. Depends on your temperament I suppose. As a long time supporter of Welsh rugby I'm used to the experience of deferred gratification. It goes with the turf.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you poor sod. Are you into self-flagellating also? DaiFrank
  • Score: -3

11:19pm Sun 30 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

silurix wrote:
CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
Three years; you really like pain and suffering. By the way Zhou Enlai was wrong. The revolutionary aims of 1789 only existed metaphysically. Unfortunately the empirical reality of rugby at RP is worse ... discuss.
[quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).[/p][/quote]Three years; you really like pain and suffering. By the way Zhou Enlai was wrong. The revolutionary aims of 1789 only existed metaphysically. Unfortunately the empirical reality of rugby at RP is worse ... discuss. DaiFrank
  • Score: -3

11:20pm Sun 30 Mar 14

DaiFrank says...

blackandamber wrote:
I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.[/p][/quote]Why? DaiFrank
  • Score: -2

11:57pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

blackandamber wrote:
I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.
I fund this rubbish through my license fee, why should i pay twice to watch a team i never wanted?
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.[/p][/quote]I fund this rubbish through my license fee, why should i pay twice to watch a team i never wanted? Mr Bump.
  • Score: -6

10:05am Mon 31 Mar 14

silurix says...

DaiFrank wrote:
silurix wrote:
CaptainB wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?
Probably not before Orgust!!!
As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this?

As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).
Three years; you really like pain and suffering. By the way Zhou Enlai was wrong. The revolutionary aims of 1789 only existed metaphysically. Unfortunately the empirical reality of rugby at RP is worse ... discuss.
Dai - I'm not feeling any pain. you're obviously a sensitive soul. All aims are metaphysical. Implementing those aims may have physical and social consequences. That was the implicit question that Chou was responding to.
Don't be such a drama queen. The "empirical reality" at RP is interesting and important at one level but in the great scheme of things its no big deal. Perspective man, perspective. Chill.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: Who exactly are Connaught? Its Connacht for crying out loud. When will the pig thick Gwent supporters realise this?[/p][/quote]Probably not before Orgust!!![/p][/quote]As you well know, Connaught is the old anglicised version of the Irish Chonnact. Throwing a hissy fit over a triviality does nothing for the credilbility of non-Gwent supporters. When will you realise this? As for the rugby , its too early for all the doom and gloom. The Jones boys need a season or three to make their mark. As Chou En Lai said when asked for his opinion of the 1789 French Revolution , "its too soon to say". Now that guy was intelligent ( and wise ).[/p][/quote]Three years; you really like pain and suffering. By the way Zhou Enlai was wrong. The revolutionary aims of 1789 only existed metaphysically. Unfortunately the empirical reality of rugby at RP is worse ... discuss.[/p][/quote]Dai - I'm not feeling any pain. you're obviously a sensitive soul. All aims are metaphysical. Implementing those aims may have physical and social consequences. That was the implicit question that Chou was responding to. Don't be such a drama queen. The "empirical reality" at RP is interesting and important at one level but in the great scheme of things its no big deal. Perspective man, perspective. Chill. silurix
  • Score: 3

5:35pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bwlchgwyn72 says...

I'm not sure how people can actually comment about the game as they weren't actually there: my wife and I were thanks to living only an hour and a half away in Milan. We were the only dragons' fans at the ground seeing as it was only us making any noise when we scored. Not sure that the coaches were too impressed with us wearing Newport shirts: we weren't making a political point more that we don't have our dragons' tops here.

The major problem was once Duncan bell went off the scrum fell apart and the home side played on it. The other issue was that we missed 2 kicks at goal whereas Orquera nailed all his. More people should try and come to Italy for games as Saturday was close to 20 degrees, the beer was 3 euros and the city and ground delightful.
I'm not sure how people can actually comment about the game as they weren't actually there: my wife and I were thanks to living only an hour and a half away in Milan. We were the only dragons' fans at the ground seeing as it was only us making any noise when we scored. Not sure that the coaches were too impressed with us wearing Newport shirts: we weren't making a political point more that we don't have our dragons' tops here. The major problem was once Duncan bell went off the scrum fell apart and the home side played on it. The other issue was that we missed 2 kicks at goal whereas Orquera nailed all his. More people should try and come to Italy for games as Saturday was close to 20 degrees, the beer was 3 euros and the city and ground delightful. bwlchgwyn72
  • Score: 11

7:38pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Amber in the blood says...

blackandamber wrote:
I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.
Blackandamber, you should be on the stage,pay to watch that rubbish ha ha
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: I do wonder if sometimes if some of the posters here actually watch any rugby by buying a ticket and attending a match.[/p][/quote]Blackandamber, you should be on the stage,pay to watch that rubbish ha ha Amber in the blood
  • Score: -4

7:29am Tue 1 Apr 14

southend1 says...

Lynn must have read my post as he's just said on bbc web site that he will be applying to the WRU for permission to import foreign players. I didn't know he had to but apparently the rules are different for Welsh teams compared to Ireland,Scotland and France. I wonder what the WRU response will be.
Lynn must have read my post as he's just said on bbc web site that he will be applying to the WRU for permission to import foreign players. I didn't know he had to but apparently the rules are different for Welsh teams compared to Ireland,Scotland and France. I wonder what the WRU response will be. southend1
  • Score: 2

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