Lyn Jones: Dragons rebuilding job is working

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DIRECTOR of rugby Lyn Jones believes Newport Gwent Dragons' spirited Judgement Day performance against the Ospreys shows that the Rodney Parade rebuilding job is working.

Not much has changed for the Dragons this season in terms of their placing in the RaboDirect Pro12; they sit 10th and are destined to finish as the bottom Welsh region.

But plenty is changing off the field; Jones has already signed seven players for 2014/15 and a raft of squad members are entering the final few weeks of their time at Rodney Parade.

The rebuilding job has no doubt played a part in form slipping since the turn of the year – they have taken just 7 points from a possible 45 – but Jones believes better times are around the corner.

"I was absolutely delighted with the attitude and the effort that the players put in against the Ospreys," said the director of rugby, who took over the reins last June.

"I thought that Lewis Evans was outstanding as a captain and as a player – we need more like him doing the Dragons shirt proud.

"We are slowly but surely getting the right people in the room and it's only when we get everyone singing from the same sheet that we will succeed.

"I said in the build-up to the Ospreys game that we are probably seven years behind the Ospreys and the challenge is to close that gap as quickly as we can. Sunday was an indication that we are doing it the right way."

Nonetheless it was another pointless encounter for the Dragons and finishing above the in-form Cardiff Blues, who are six clear thanks to a hat-trick of wins, is now highly unlikely.

Jones said: "We are bottom of the log, there's only one way for us to go and that's up. There's no shortcut to where we want to go, it'll just take bloodymindedness to stick at it and keep building.

"There are things in place for next season but now we have the challenge to beat the Scarlets and beat Treviso."

One victory could well be enough for the Dragons to leapfrog Edinburgh and Connacht into eighth in the table.

The side from the Scottish capital, who are four points ahead, have a tricky run-in against three title hopefuls – Glasgow, Munster and Leinster.

The Galway-based province, who are three points ahead, host Cardiff Blues and end against the Ospreys at the Liberty Stadium.

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9:48am Thu 24 Apr 14

hazellboy says...

I agree the commitment and spirit was very good at the stadium, my question is why not the same attitude in Italy and most games for that matter? I would question the motivation (or lack of it) the best teams should treat every game like a cup final,
I agree the commitment and spirit was very good at the stadium, my question is why not the same attitude in Italy and most games for that matter? I would question the motivation (or lack of it) the best teams should treat every game like a cup final, hazellboy
  • Score: 15

6:30pm Thu 24 Apr 14

keithbob says...

building?sure i heard that back several seasons ago and we were still bottom region then!.hope i dont hear that word again in 2015 after our raft of signings then!
building?sure i heard that back several seasons ago and we were still bottom region then!.hope i dont hear that word again in 2015 after our raft of signings then! keithbob
  • Score: -5

8:03pm Thu 24 Apr 14

silurix says...

The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine. silurix
  • Score: 12

9:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

keithbob says...

silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!
[quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.[/p][/quote]so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt! keithbob
  • Score: 6

10:14pm Thu 24 Apr 14

silurix says...

keithbob wrote:
silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!
I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.
[quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.[/p][/quote]so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt![/p][/quote]I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me. silurix
  • Score: 5

11:25am Fri 25 Apr 14

DaiFrank says...

silurix wrote:
keithbob wrote:
silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!
I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.
I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened.

The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.
[quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.[/p][/quote]so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt![/p][/quote]I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.[/p][/quote]I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened. The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby. DaiFrank
  • Score: -6

12:27pm Fri 25 Apr 14

silurix says...

Don't need pills Dai - if your expectations are realistic there's no torture involved. I think you have bought in to this modern quick fix, instant gratification culture - no good can come of it. If you check up on who owns today's rugby clubs I think you'll find that most of them have strong links to the club or the locality. No sensible business man would invest in a rugby club expecting to make a profit. Its only the nutters who are prepared to throw away their money for the love of the game. Invitations to join this exclusive club would probably be spurned by normal investors. I agree with some of your latter comments though the decline of Welsh Rugby started long ago. That's why the regions were set up in the first place. Inevitable decline? Who knows? If they don't look after the lower levels - probably yes.
Don't need pills Dai - if your expectations are realistic there's no torture involved. I think you have bought in to this modern quick fix, instant gratification culture - no good can come of it. If you check up on who owns today's rugby clubs I think you'll find that most of them have strong links to the club or the locality. No sensible business man would invest in a rugby club expecting to make a profit. Its only the nutters who are prepared to throw away their money for the love of the game. Invitations to join this exclusive club would probably be spurned by normal investors. I agree with some of your latter comments though the decline of Welsh Rugby started long ago. That's why the regions were set up in the first place. Inevitable decline? Who knows? If they don't look after the lower levels - probably yes. silurix
  • Score: 4

5:36pm Fri 25 Apr 14

keithbob says...

all my thumbs down replies tells the story of supporters content to be lowest region year after year,just keep throwing your money after bad folks,its not mine!
all my thumbs down replies tells the story of supporters content to be lowest region year after year,just keep throwing your money after bad folks,its not mine! keithbob
  • Score: -3

10:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Euwan Usami says...

DaiFrank wrote:
silurix wrote:
keithbob wrote:
silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!
I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.
I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened.

The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.
If anyone needs happy pills it's definitely you Dai.

The situation is what it is. Why you bother to slate every Dragons post that appears is beyond me. You can dress it up with as much pretentious tosh as you like but it's basically belly aching about a 10 year old decision.

You could save yourself time by a cutting and pasting the same post for each story. Or better still, allow every one to assume your position hasn't changed and don't bother posting at all. You could use the spare time to try something else. You could have a brighter outlook in no time.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.[/p][/quote]so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt![/p][/quote]I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.[/p][/quote]I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened. The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.[/p][/quote]If anyone needs happy pills it's definitely you Dai. The situation is what it is. Why you bother to slate every Dragons post that appears is beyond me. You can dress it up with as much pretentious tosh as you like but it's basically belly aching about a 10 year old decision. You could save yourself time by a cutting and pasting the same post for each story. Or better still, allow every one to assume your position hasn't changed and don't bother posting at all. You could use the spare time to try something else. You could have a brighter outlook in no time. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 3

12:48am Sat 26 Apr 14

corpardguy says...

One thing is certain we now have a back line worthy of the name that can turn in tries with the best of them.....if they are given the ball.
We all know the problem, and I include LJ and team in this, and to be fair he is trying to do something about it. While Goughie is not a long term answer he will certainly be a big help up to (or even after 60 mins). and will help ease the load on our injury prone 2nd rows without causing a loss of power. He will certainly increase the intimidation factor (we really need Will James as well). With him Goughie,Stankovitch and Bell we could have a fine OAP pack with a purpose that would really take the vinegar out of some of these younger "hard men" and win some decent ball for 60 mins at least. By the way has anyone else noticed there are not that many international class front fives in the market.
Agreed 2014 not gone well, but at least some pride has been put back in the side and that counts for a lot, even in the professional era. Also in case no-one noticed, people, good people are actually signing with the NGD now, That was not happening prior to LJ and Kingsley arriving.
We are still light on good cover in the pack but next season we can realistically expect a losing BP in matches we would have been expected to get thrashed two years ago.
The plan should be the same as Gatlands when he arrived.
1.Stop leaking tries and spilling the ball
1A. GET FIT. REALLY, REALLY FIT enough to play 120 mins full out.
1B Learn the basics of handling, passing and catching properly.
2. slow the opposition ball without giving vital penalties in kickable areas
3. Intimidate the line and set pieces
4. Make all your kicks count from hand and tee.
5. Don't give possession away by aimless kicking and spilling it in the tackle.
6 Start scoring tries when it counts

Here endeth the first lesson, A prayer might come in handy about now too......
One thing is certain we now have a back line worthy of the name that can turn in tries with the best of them.....if they are given the ball. We all know the problem, and I include LJ and team in this, and to be fair he is trying to do something about it. While Goughie is not a long term answer he will certainly be a big help up to (or even after 60 mins). and will help ease the load on our injury prone 2nd rows without causing a loss of power. He will certainly increase the intimidation factor (we really need Will James as well). With him Goughie,Stankovitch and Bell we could have a fine OAP pack with a purpose that would really take the vinegar out of some of these younger "hard men" and win some decent ball for 60 mins at least. By the way has anyone else noticed there are not that many international class front fives in the market. Agreed 2014 not gone well, but at least some pride has been put back in the side and that counts for a lot, even in the professional era. Also in case no-one noticed, people, good people are actually signing with the NGD now, That was not happening prior to LJ and Kingsley arriving. We are still light on good cover in the pack but next season we can realistically expect a losing BP in matches we would have been expected to get thrashed two years ago. The plan should be the same as Gatlands when he arrived. 1.Stop leaking tries and spilling the ball 1A. GET FIT. REALLY, REALLY FIT enough to play 120 mins full out. 1B Learn the basics of handling, passing and catching properly. 2. slow the opposition ball without giving vital penalties in kickable areas 3. Intimidate the line and set pieces 4. Make all your kicks count from hand and tee. 5. Don't give possession away by aimless kicking and spilling it in the tackle. 6 Start scoring tries when it counts Here endeth the first lesson, A prayer might come in handy about now too...... corpardguy
  • Score: 7

7:12am Sat 26 Apr 14

East Newport Dave says...

DaiFrank wrote:
silurix wrote:
keithbob wrote:
silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.
so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!
I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.
I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened.

The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.
I think you have this wrong. You talk about business investing in the Dragons. I would like to know of a business that has profited from putting money into regional rugby in Wales. Like most backers in top sport, they are throwing money into a deep pit or into over-inflated player salaries. The only thing the business people are likely to get out of it is a bit of kudos.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silurix[/bold] wrote: The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth. If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.[/p][/quote]so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt![/p][/quote]I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.[/p][/quote]I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened. The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.[/p][/quote]I think you have this wrong. You talk about business investing in the Dragons. I would like to know of a business that has profited from putting money into regional rugby in Wales. Like most backers in top sport, they are throwing money into a deep pit or into over-inflated player salaries. The only thing the business people are likely to get out of it is a bit of kudos. East Newport Dave
  • Score: 8

1:40pm Sat 26 Apr 14

b3talover says...

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  • Score: 4

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