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    The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
    keithbob wrote:
    all you hear is dragons dragons,when they run towards the hazell before the start of the game and during the game.so what the hell is wrong with just calling us DRAGONS?.simples!
    Because its dreadful, unimaginative, homogenous dross. If there has to be a silly moniker, then have something that resonates, like Siurians, Usksiders or Bowmen, a name that links the franchise to the local AND historical, not one borne of a typical, superficial, shallow, obvious harking to all things Wales.

    As my name suggests, I want a Newport stand alone, no question, but this last 11 years has wore me down, and frankly, things move on. However the fact remains that issues of identity beset this 'region', and need to be resolved. I am still, after 11 years, frequently agitated when individuals choose to ignore the fact that Newport RFC as it was continues to exclusively underpin the regional team and that the 50% share held by WRU seems to have no discernible impact on that arrangement. It certainly hasn't led to additional investment above and beyond the central monies it disburses on a central basis under the Participation Agreement, so what value - as a business partner in the truest of senses - does it really add? I'm going for near or at the 'negligible' mark.

    I want Newport back, with a moniker if needs be, playing in black and amber, but given rampant parochialism, typical south-east Wales chippiness, the obsessive powerlust displayed by certain parties in certain administrations, and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain structural realities, means that's not likely to happen. Disgracefully.

    But I miss watching rugby and would dearly love to get behind pro rugby again. And the fact is, I can't as it stands. And nor, I'm going to wager, are many, many, many like me, who are alienated by arrangements. But like I said, I want to watch pro rugby.

    I pray for Hazell and Lewis and other board directors to have the courage to be brave enough and say we need to try something new. And something new could just convince naysayers like myself. Old(er) age has taught me (a degree) of compromise, as I'm sure it has most others. If 'Gwent' truly isn't going anywhere, then a revisiting of other aspects could just convince me: Newport Gwent Bowmen playing in black, amber and white only might just do it for me (even though, as I type, I desperately wish to erase 'Gwent'). Please, no more red, it has no association with the ground.

    But the most important matter, NEVER addressed, remains, the 50% WRU share, something that simply has to hinder more than help. It might be that it has expedited the likes of Appleyard moving to RP, and could even pave the way for Adam Jones, if he does indeed sign a central contract, but ultimately the sports business like any other is exclusively concerned with the maximising of revenue streams (profit being a non-starter). The 50/50 Newport/WRU set-up renders the benefactor required to financially contribute, exclusively, while not having the legal means to wholly shape the outfit's destiny.

    Would you go into business, using your cash and your cash alone, to then undertake all day-to-day management, using your own resources, land and real estate, to cede a veto to a business partner who has no discernible financial contribution to offer? Strikes me as perverse and nonsensical. (And its that that then has me wanting Newport Black and Ambers and nothing else!!).

    At the very least, the WRU should have the courage to gift its shares and voting rights to the only 'partner' (some might say, according to this analysis, patsy) willing and able, and available, for the past 11 years to operate an enterprise. They don't even have to say thank you.
    A thoughtful post PRON. You make some valid points. The WRU involvement in NGD is unwelcome and debilitating. The original concept of "regions" seemed fair and proper and was a well-meaning attempt to maximise the support base for the new teams as well as being the only way to get the restructuring through a vote by the 320 WRU club members. The concept was never fully implemented though , and has left NGD at a disadvantage.
    The WRU, as ever, was keener to exercise control than show leadership or allow full commercial discretion to those working at the sharp end. I'm not exonerating the regions from all blame, but none of them has really prospered under those conditions. All this huffing and puffing about the NGD name is a distraction though. There are more fundamental issues to address first or the game will go downhill. Perhaps Moffet's idea of 5 year rolling franchises is the way forward. Failing franchises could then be replaced. There's no perfect system though , and if anyone can **** up a good system, we can in Wales."
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Logo debacle won't prompt Newport Gwent Dragons name change

NEWPORT Gwent Dragons do not intend to change their name despite a can of worms being opened up by the fiasco over a new logo, writes Chris Kirwan.

The Rodney Parade region made an embarrassing climbdown yesterday, closing a web vote to choose a crest just 14 hours after it started because of negative feedback.

Over 2,250 votes were cast on yourdragons.co.uk but the current badge – which has been on the jersey since 2003 – will remain next season rather than any of the three prospective options.

While the attempt to engage with supporters was laudable, the "brand refresh" idea merely sparked the age-old debate over the name.

The vote fired up rival factions with some arguing for it to be just Newport and others calling for the region to be known simply as the Dragons.

Not only that, the vote wasn't exclusive to rugby supporters in the region – people could have their say even if they had never heard of Rodney Parade let alone stepped through its turnstiles.

The embarrassing episode mere served to highlight the problems facing the region – choosing a new crest featuring Newport Gwent Dragons was akin to giving the radiator a fresh lick of paint and ignoring the crack in the living room wall.

Members of the board are frustrated at the debacle and while they acknowledge the need to establish a proper direction over their identity they feel the time is wrong for that particular debate.

They believe there are more pressing matters, namely the attempts of Regional Rugby Wales, the body representing them along with the Ospreys, Cardiff Blues and the Scarlets, to thrash out a new participation agreement with the Welsh Rugby Union.

Nor do they intend to make any hasty moves in what is, and always has been, a delicate situation.

They are keen to attract support from all over Gwent to Rodney Parade but are well aware that the majority of their season ticket holders hail from Newport.

Detailed market research about what route to go down could happen in the future, but it does not appear to be imminent.

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