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    DaiFrank wrote:
    Hazell once said something like 'this isn't the black and amber show'. That was in 2005 I recall, and he thought that was that, end of debate. How wrong he was! His sidekick Will Godfrey - what a joke he is - once said something like 'we aren't worried about crowd size because we are guaranteed funding from the WRU'. He said that at a meeting I helped to organise to help save Newport RFC which he co-chaired. Both are complete fools. Hazell is responsible for this debacle. In a conversation with Dai Watkins in Perpignan he knew that Hazell wanted to create his new project and was determined to do so. It has failed as many of us predicted. Brown stood aside from it all. Newport in the name wasn't a consideration for any of them - reluctantly it was added after the sham 'Gwent Dragons' failed to take off. Unfortunately Hazell, Godfrey et al. were ably assisted by the Newport Supporters Club at the time who supported the NGD concept. I and others at the time campaigned against this and even put an ad in the Argus calling for the team to keep the black and amber colours, name change, badge etc. Remember, in the early days they weren't playing in those colours but Hazell was forced to do a u-turn on that. But it only added to the confusion over identity, ie, playing in a kit with black and amber in it whilst trying to appeal to the Gwentists!

    Get rid of the 'Gwent Dragons' tag. Return it to Newport RFC. Black and Amber Hoops. Traditional Badge.

    ps Get rid of Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones also. BTW I believe he's been given a year to put things right hence no name change next season!
    The worst thing about Lyn Jones is not his propensity for hiring old guns nearing the end of their careers (which he's doing), nor his criticising of players in public (which we've frequently witnessed), but his divisive, erroneous and inflammatory references to 'Gwent Dragons', which perpetuates the complexities of the identity issue.

    Word to the wise Mr Jones... 'Gwent Dragons' ceased to exist in 2003, about a nanosecond after its launch. Without the outfit that begins with the (apparently dreaded) letter 'N', you wouldn't have a club to coach.

    Such references merely serve to alienate at a time when YOU need to get as many people through the turnstiles to fund YOUR planned restructuring of the team. And setting that aside, its unprofessional and looks like the griping of a man with an axe to grind. All in all, pretty pathetic."
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Logo debacle won't prompt Newport Gwent Dragons name change

Logo debacle won't prompt Newport Gwent Dragons name change

First published in Sport

NEWPORT Gwent Dragons do not intend to change their name despite a can of worms being opened up by the fiasco over a new logo, writes Chris Kirwan.

The Rodney Parade region made an embarrassing climbdown yesterday, closing a web vote to choose a crest just 14 hours after it started because of negative feedback.

Over 2,250 votes were cast on yourdragons.co.uk but the current badge – which has been on the jersey since 2003 – will remain next season rather than any of the three prospective options.

While the attempt to engage with supporters was laudable, the "brand refresh" idea merely sparked the age-old debate over the name.

The vote fired up rival factions with some arguing for it to be just Newport and others calling for the region to be known simply as the Dragons.

Not only that, the vote wasn't exclusive to rugby supporters in the region – people could have their say even if they had never heard of Rodney Parade let alone stepped through its turnstiles.

The embarrassing episode mere served to highlight the problems facing the region – choosing a new crest featuring Newport Gwent Dragons was akin to giving the radiator a fresh lick of paint and ignoring the crack in the living room wall.

Members of the board are frustrated at the debacle and while they acknowledge the need to establish a proper direction over their identity they feel the time is wrong for that particular debate.

They believe there are more pressing matters, namely the attempts of Regional Rugby Wales, the body representing them along with the Ospreys, Cardiff Blues and the Scarlets, to thrash out a new participation agreement with the Welsh Rugby Union.

Nor do they intend to make any hasty moves in what is, and always has been, a delicate situation.

They are keen to attract support from all over Gwent to Rodney Parade but are well aware that the majority of their season ticket holders hail from Newport.

Detailed market research about what route to go down could happen in the future, but it does not appear to be imminent.

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