Strange turns down tempting Dragons approach

Campaign Series: TOP COACH: Ebbw Vale boss Jason Strange TOP COACH: Ebbw Vale boss Jason Strange

EBBW Vale boss Jason Strange has reluctantly turned down an approach to join the Newport Gwent Dragons coaching set-up.

The former fly-half has caught the eye by leading the Steelmen to four successive titles and promotion back to the Principality Premiership.

His efforts have impressed the Dragons director of rugby Lyn Jones and assistant Kingsley Jones, a former coach and captain at Eugene Cross Park respectively.

The region have been without a backs coach since Darren Edwards left in February and Strange was sounded out about a role back at Rodney Parade, where he played for Newport between 2001 and 2003.

However, the 40-year-old from Tredegar combines his post with the Steelmen with a job at Ebbw Fawr Learning Community and felt the time was wrong to make the move.

"I did speak to the Dragons but it's not quite right for me at this moment," he said. "I was flattered and I had a big decision to make.

"It was tempting because their recruitment has been excellent and they have some really exciting young players in the squad.

"But with my good job at the school and having put all that work into Ebbw Vale over the last four years (to earn promotion) it would have felt wrong to leave at this time.

"I've got aspirations to coach at the top level and I have had other approaches from English clubs. It's something that I will have to consider more in the future and I will have to take the plunge at some stage, but not quite yet."

Lyn Jones, who is currently in New Zealand watching the Junior World Championship, is poised to continue working with the backs after taking on more responsibility at the tail end of last season.

He has previously extolled the virtues of occasionally bringing in consultant coaches, a model he used at his previous job with London Welsh in the Aviva Premiership.

"Myself and Kingsley are hugely experienced coaches and nothing can happen in rugby that we haven't been through already," he said in March. "We are not experts in every field but we can hire in expertise."

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9:12am Wed 4 Jun 14

Caerleonboy says...

But surely the backs are important enough that a full time backs coach should be employed? The do make up neary half the team, after all!
But surely the backs are important enough that a full time backs coach should be employed? The do make up neary half the team, after all! Caerleonboy
  • Score: 16

9:14am Wed 4 Jun 14

Risca1 says...

Don't understand how a 'professional outfit' can be coached without a backs coach! Cost-cutting exercise then.
Don't understand how a 'professional outfit' can be coached without a backs coach! Cost-cutting exercise then. Risca1
  • Score: 8

9:20am Wed 4 Jun 14

Newport76 says...

Excellent decision. Better to stay with a successful team.
Excellent decision. Better to stay with a successful team. Newport76
  • Score: 6

9:22am Wed 4 Jun 14

Risca1 says...

Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale! Risca1
  • Score: -8

12:18pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Newport76 says...

Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
[quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really. Newport76
  • Score: -2

12:31pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
[quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 11

12:52pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Newport76 says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
It's all about the timing isn't it. Given the current situation with Ebbw Vale and with his job at Ebbw Fawr, then he probably feels that he needs that solidity at the moment rather than the coaching "merry-go-round" that seems to happen with the Dragons. How many coaches over the last 10 years have they had? You can't blame him for wanting to have a "crack" at the Premiership with Ebbw Vale - the team that he coached back to the Premiership.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]It's all about the timing isn't it. Given the current situation with Ebbw Vale and with his job at Ebbw Fawr, then he probably feels that he needs that solidity at the moment rather than the coaching "merry-go-round" that seems to happen with the Dragons. How many coaches over the last 10 years have they had? You can't blame him for wanting to have a "crack" at the Premiership with Ebbw Vale - the team that he coached back to the Premiership. Newport76
  • Score: 13

12:55pm Wed 4 Jun 14

ebbwdragon says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
As Chippy says its all about timing, he has guided Ebbw to the Prem and wants to test himself there first, add a little bit of old-fashioned loyalty into the equation and you have a great decision, he will coach at a higher level in the future no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]As Chippy says its all about timing, he has guided Ebbw to the Prem and wants to test himself there first, add a little bit of old-fashioned loyalty into the equation and you have a great decision, he will coach at a higher level in the future no doubt. ebbwdragon
  • Score: 13

1:07pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Caerleonboy says...

Maybe he'll wait until he's won a bit more with Ebbw Vale and then look for a job as head coach at a region/ English club if and when the chance comes. It's a shame the Dragons can't encourage him to join them now, but I can completely understand that having taken Ebbw Vale this far he's not ready to leave them yet
Maybe he'll wait until he's won a bit more with Ebbw Vale and then look for a job as head coach at a region/ English club if and when the chance comes. It's a shame the Dragons can't encourage him to join them now, but I can completely understand that having taken Ebbw Vale this far he's not ready to leave them yet Caerleonboy
  • Score: 17

4:34pm Wed 4 Jun 14

stevey says...

Jason has shown an enormous amount of loyalty to Ebbw and he is highly thought of there, plus he has his teaching job to consider. Viewing the comments on here aimed at the coaches of the Dragons when things don't go according to plan think I would have done the same.
Jason has shown an enormous amount of loyalty to Ebbw and he is highly thought of there, plus he has his teaching job to consider. Viewing the comments on here aimed at the coaches of the Dragons when things don't go according to plan think I would have done the same. stevey
  • Score: 12

7:28pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Sonny Side says...

Chippy is a cracking coach and a very loyal person. He formed a good Abergavenny side a few years ago (with Gavin Taylor doing the forwards). He's doing things the right way (and old fashioned way), starting with Abergavenny and progressing slowly. I'm sure he'll end up coaching a top-quality side (if not international) before he is done.
Chippy is a cracking coach and a very loyal person. He formed a good Abergavenny side a few years ago (with Gavin Taylor doing the forwards). He's doing things the right way (and old fashioned way), starting with Abergavenny and progressing slowly. I'm sure he'll end up coaching a top-quality side (if not international) before he is done. Sonny Side
  • Score: 9

9:21pm Wed 4 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: -8

7:18am Thu 5 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.
Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;)
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.[/p][/quote]Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;) Euwan Usami
  • Score: 9

11:14am Thu 5 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.
Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;)
Haha, very droll! I think we both know that attendances in excess of 6,000 are as rare as hen's teeth...
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.[/p][/quote]Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;)[/p][/quote]Haha, very droll! I think we both know that attendances in excess of 6,000 are as rare as hen's teeth... The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: -7

12:43pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
Newport76 wrote:
Risca1 wrote:
Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale!
Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.
That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.
I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.
Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;)
Haha, very droll! I think we both know that attendances in excess of 6,000 are as rare as hen's teeth...
Last season or two I would agree yeah. But 5k plus is not unusual. The point I was trying to make is Club attendances are typically measured in hundreds rather than thousands. If your at RP for Newport (As I do) or Sardis Road it's rare to see more than 1500 total imo. Regional rugby is very different.
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Risca1[/bold] wrote: Comes to something when you turn down the Dragons to stay at Ebbwvale![/p][/quote]Makes perfect sense to me. Ebbw Vale are a successful team, with all of the "off the field" structure sorted and working well on a sound financial footing and the team has excellent support, probably only second to Pontypridd in terms of the Premiership. Whereas the Dragons is a complete shambles. No brainer really.[/p][/quote]That's an odd argument to be fair. The Dragons are the only region to be financially sound have 11 under 20 internationals at the JWC at the moment and have attendances from 5 to 8 thousand. How is a Premiership side on anyway a better option for ambitious coach.[/p][/quote]I'd love to know how many times NGD have exceeded a crowd of 8,000... 7,000, 6,000 or 5,000 for that matter.[/p][/quote]Attend a few games, they announce the attendances over the PA. ;)[/p][/quote]Haha, very droll! I think we both know that attendances in excess of 6,000 are as rare as hen's teeth...[/p][/quote]Last season or two I would agree yeah. But 5k plus is not unusual. The point I was trying to make is Club attendances are typically measured in hundreds rather than thousands. If your at RP for Newport (As I do) or Sardis Road it's rare to see more than 1500 total imo. Regional rugby is very different. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 7

3:06pm Thu 5 Jun 14

stevey says...

Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality. stevey
  • Score: -3

4:04pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Caerleonboy says...

stevey wrote:
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?
[quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.[/p][/quote]Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day? Caerleonboy
  • Score: 6

10:35am Fri 6 Jun 14

keithbob says...

benn over there many a time when they announce the gate,well exaggerated evry time.just count the empty seats in the bisley!
benn over there many a time when they announce the gate,well exaggerated evry time.just count the empty seats in the bisley! keithbob
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

For the regional games they use the turnstiles at RP and all the tickets, season and paper are scanned. This doesn't mean they are not exaggerating the attendance granted. Either way it takes no genius to see the difference in attendance between a club versus regional game. It's easily 3 or 4 times the crowd at any pro12 encounter. If you have a joint ST at RP you will know this already.
For the regional games they use the turnstiles at RP and all the tickets, season and paper are scanned. This doesn't mean they are not exaggerating the attendance granted. Either way it takes no genius to see the difference in attendance between a club versus regional game. It's easily 3 or 4 times the crowd at any pro12 encounter. If you have a joint ST at RP you will know this already. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 8

2:40pm Fri 6 Jun 14

stevey says...

Caerleonboy wrote:
stevey wrote:
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?
Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.
[quote][p][bold]Caerleonboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.[/p][/quote]Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?[/p][/quote]Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus. stevey
  • Score: -4

7:23pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

stevey wrote:
Caerleonboy wrote:
stevey wrote:
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?
Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.
Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;)
[quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caerleonboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.[/p][/quote]Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?[/p][/quote]Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.[/p][/quote]Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;) Euwan Usami
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pettsy says...

Ironic isn't it. Ebbw trains don't go to Newport......and neither will the coach !!!!
Hilarious !
Ironic isn't it. Ebbw trains don't go to Newport......and neither will the coach !!!! Hilarious ! pettsy
  • Score: 3

12:19am Sat 7 Jun 14

stevey says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Caerleonboy wrote:
stevey wrote:
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?
Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.
Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;)
Euwan listen, I do know how the gate is calculated, don't care about the percentage gate of region v club game. Do know that compared to the English or French game it is PATHETIC, you don't have to b there to see it. Besides I know of ALL the clubs in Gwent are offered FREE tickets and very often they are returned unused, clear as can be to me. So Dragon supporters outnumber Newport supporters? No surprise there.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caerleonboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.[/p][/quote]Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?[/p][/quote]Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.[/p][/quote]Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;)[/p][/quote]Euwan listen, I do know how the gate is calculated, don't care about the percentage gate of region v club game. Do know that compared to the English or French game it is PATHETIC, you don't have to b there to see it. Besides I know of ALL the clubs in Gwent are offered FREE tickets and very often they are returned unused, clear as can be to me. So Dragon supporters outnumber Newport supporters? No surprise there. stevey
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12:48pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Euwan Usami says...

stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Caerleonboy wrote:
stevey wrote:
Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.
Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?
Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.
Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;)
Euwan listen, I do know how the gate is calculated, don't care about the percentage gate of region v club game. Do know that compared to the English or French game it is PATHETIC, you don't have to b there to see it. Besides I know of ALL the clubs in Gwent are offered FREE tickets and very often they are returned unused, clear as can be to me. So Dragon supporters outnumber Newport supporters? No surprise there.
I think we are on different page here Steve. Not trying to wind you up tbh. I accept that it's possible the gates are exaggerated though I am not sure why it's a problem really. I am not sure what point your making about the Eng and French. The Welsh game is in dire straights at the moment ref funding (French TV rights are 10 times the pro12 for example.) players are leaving for the cash and better opportunities. Hence the longstanding row between the RRW and the WRU and David Moffets campaign to bring the WRU to book. There is no doubt the game is in a much healthier state in Eng and France.
[quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caerleonboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: Of course when the crowd are calculated at regional games they add up all the season ticketholders then add the gate numbers to come up with a fictitious figure so 3,800 could be 2,500 in reality.[/p][/quote]Surely they just count how many go through the gates on the day?[/p][/quote]Nope it's as I said, been told from those who know. Don't listen to the propaganda machine that is called Euwan Usami, think he is employed full time by the Dragons and/or Argus.[/p][/quote]Stevey, listen, I will try to make this a clear as I can. I don't know how the attendances are calculated Personally and I don't pretend to. What I do know, From using my own eyes and 1st hand personal experience, is that the attendances at Pro12 games are around 3 or 4 times that of a club game. Simple as. I am not claiming to know the actual attendance figures. I can believe that all ST holders are counted for each game because by buying the tickets to begin would suggest the intent to attend doesn't it. Any single tickets are then over and above the ST holders. So it makes sense from an financial point of view. However, this wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just the difference as a ratio between club and regional games. Let's hope it's a bit clearer for now. ;)[/p][/quote]Euwan listen, I do know how the gate is calculated, don't care about the percentage gate of region v club game. Do know that compared to the English or French game it is PATHETIC, you don't have to b there to see it. Besides I know of ALL the clubs in Gwent are offered FREE tickets and very often they are returned unused, clear as can be to me. So Dragon supporters outnumber Newport supporters? No surprise there.[/p][/quote]I think we are on different page here Steve. Not trying to wind you up tbh. I accept that it's possible the gates are exaggerated though I am not sure why it's a problem really. I am not sure what point your making about the Eng and French. The Welsh game is in dire straights at the moment ref funding (French TV rights are 10 times the pro12 for example.) players are leaving for the cash and better opportunities. Hence the longstanding row between the RRW and the WRU and David Moffets campaign to bring the WRU to book. There is no doubt the game is in a much healthier state in Eng and France. Euwan Usami
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