GARETH Bale and Aaron Ramsey are both set to miss out as Wales unveil their squad to play a celebratory friendly with the Netherlands.

The Dutch travel to the Cardiff City Stadium on November 13, for a friendly that is as unexpected as it is delightful from a Welsh perspective.

The fixture comes during the international break set aside for Euro 2016 play-offs, but Wales have already qualified for France and amazingly, the Netherlands have been eliminated.

However, Wales are set to be without their two star turns, Real Madrid’s Bale, who has a calf strain and Arsenal midfielder Ramsey, who has a hamstring injury. Chris Coleman names his squad on Wednesday morning.

However, the reactions from the two respective clubs could hardly have been more different, with Madrid seemingly far more understanding of the Welsh position than Arsenal.

“He had a scan and he's out,” said Wenger of Ramsey. “I believe he will be out until after the next international break. The fact that he played against Andorra certainly cost Bale and him as well.

"Maybe he [Ramsey] was overloaded a little bit with games.

"Ideally I think nor him, nor Gareth Bale should have played against Andorra because they were qualified, but unfortunately I could not decide that.”

Wenger conceded he also could have rested Ramsey.

"I was in a position after that I thought I could rest him against Watford, in the end I didn't do it," Wenger said.

"And of course in front of Bayern I had not much choice and we got punished.

"Ideally he should have had a breather at Watford, but realistically the real breather he could have had was against Andorra."

However, following the reoccurrence of his calf problem, former Madrid chief Ramon Calderon played down the prospect of attempting to start a blame game.

"There's no one to blame for that," Calderon said.

"There can be no doubt that the coach [Wales] Chris Coleman and the player decided to play because they thought he was fit.

"It was a very important moment for him and for Wales.

"Other teams have had the same problems with injuries in the national and it is part of the game."

Cwmbran’s Danny Gabbidon feels the chance to play without their star men could even benefit Wales.

"That one (the game with the Dutch) might have come a little bit too quick for him (Bale) this time," Gabbidon told BBC Wales Sport.

"You always want your best players there and it's something Chris Coleman is just going to have to deal with.

"It is a chance to maybe to put other players in and experiment, maybe with a different formation."