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Wales in World Cup 2015 group of death
3:28pm Monday 3rd December 2012 in Wales rugby
WALES’ hopes of avoiding a World Cup 2015 group of death were shattered today when they drew Australia and England in Pool A.
Warren Gatland’s men were beaten by Australia 14-12 on Saturday following on from a 3-0 series whitewash Down Under in the summer.
England, on the other hand, are riding high following a sensational 38-21 victory over the All Blacks and could offer even tougher opposition come 2015.
Scotland have drawn South Africa and Samoa in Pool B and Ireland will face France and Italy in Pool D.
The All Blacks are in Pool C where they will do battle with Argentina and Tonga.
Comments(14)
SizzlerTrainers
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4:47pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Slider02
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5:08pm Mon 3 Dec 12
If they actually believed in themselves and said that we WILL beat Australia & the All blacks, and not allowed themselves to be swallowed up in the fantastic psychological game that both sides play against wales days before a game - maybe things would have been different. But then again when even the welsh media cries "the mighty All Blacks are in town" - they just make it so much easier for them to beat wales on a mental level, thus when the game is actually played, wales don`t have a chance because mentally both Australia & the All Blacks BELIEVE that they will win. This is something that outside of the six nations Wales has never ever come to grips with !
Dai the Milk
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6:13pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Robert Shillabeer wrote:Robert, your blind optimism knows no bounds. Have you ever thought to yourself when you are watching at Rodney Parade 'how does this compare with rugby in the rest of the civilised word?' If not, tune in to a decent sports channel and it will open your eyes.
Tough pool but a long way to go before we get there. Both big sides are beatable. We must start now and get the fitness problems sorted and with some younger players to come through into contention over the next two years nothing to be down hearted about. Qualify from that pool and we could get to the final this time.
Dai the Milk
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6:13pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Robert Shillabeer wrote:Robert, your blind optimism knows no bounds. Have you ever thought to yourself when you are watching at Rodney Parade 'how does this compare with rugby in the rest of the civilised world?' If not, tune in to a decent sports channel and it will open your eyes.
Tough pool but a long way to go before we get there. Both big sides are beatable. We must start now and get the fitness problems sorted and with some younger players to come through into contention over the next two years nothing to be down hearted about. Qualify from that pool and we could get to the final this time.
Robert Shillabeer
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6:43pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Robert Shillabeer
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6:50pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Slider02 wrote:Your talking about the role of the coaching staff with this one and I agree with you that they must get their heads right for games against them. They are not that far ahead of European sides as the England win on Saturday shows. Over the next few months there will be lots of players retiring and both England and Wales have a core of younger players who should be in their prime come the World Cup finals, important they learn how to get their heads right as well as skills.
Well seeing as the whole welsh team lacks the following "self belief, determination & a will to win" - they got what they deserverd.
If they actually believed in themselves and said that we WILL beat Australia & the All blacks, and not allowed themselves to be swallowed up in the fantastic psychological game that both sides play against wales days before a game - maybe things would have been different. But then again when even the welsh media cries "the mighty All Blacks are in town" - they just make it so much easier for them to beat wales on a mental level, thus when the game is actually played, wales don`t have a chance because mentally both Australia & the All Blacks BELIEVE that they will win. This is something that outside of the six nations Wales has never ever come to grips with !
Euwan Usami
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7:06pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Robert Shillabeer
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7:23pm Mon 3 Dec 12
Euwan Usami wrote:The media always will over state things as that's what sells papers. The pool s difficult for ALL teams in it. It's 15 v 15 at the end of the day and get the players fit, on song and in the right mindset s down to the coaching team and Warren Gatland and co seem to be very good at that and the Lions tour will be history. So we don't need to worry too much just yet, tough yes but that's hen the tough get going or so they say.
The media are already playing up the group of death tag. Would they prefer SA and Samoa? It's based in the UK. We have no fear of England. The odds are getting shorter for an Australian win. There is literally nothing between the sides these days. We beat Fiji 66-0 last time out. It's about injuries and peaking at the right time but we are more than capable of getting out if that group.
MazYork
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8:13pm Mon 3 Dec 12
It's not like it's next year and like you said I think we have some good talent coming through, including props!
Keith Barnett
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8:52pm Mon 3 Dec 12
corpardguy
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11:52pm Mon 3 Dec 12
8:52pm Mon 3 Dec 12
"Tell you in 2 years time. Doesn't matter who is in our group at this stage. Anyone can beat anyone if they get their heads right"....
Correct but SKILL and TACTICS also play a huge roll and smash bash up the middle is NOT going to win games now or in two, three years or 5 years everyone has done it and everyone knows how defend against it.
We need 15 athletes who can run for 120 mins and can offload in a tackle to a team mate and beat a man on the inside every time!
OH well...........
saltheartfoamfollower
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11:35am Tue 4 Dec 12
corpardguy
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4:28pm Tue 4 Dec 12
muppet!
Robert Shillabeer says...
4:03pm Mon 3 Dec 12