What hope?

LABOUR MP Ann Clwyd has criticised the Welsh Government for not answering her concerns about the standards of healthcare in Wales.

She has been scathing about the state of the Welsh NHS.

The Cynon Valley MP, who has previously spoken out about the poor care her husband received in hospital, said she outlined complaints in a letter to First Minister Carwyn Jones but she is still waiting for a response.

If this is how Labour in Wales responds to a senior Labour member and politician what hope have the common voter have?

Andrew Nutt Heolddu Road Bargoed

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2:04pm Thu 13 Feb 14

varteg1 says...

......"If this is how Labour in Wales responds to a senior Labour member and politician what hope have the common voter have?...."


Good question, to which I would add.... why do we need political parties anyway? Or indeed politicians playing their ridiculous games with our every waking moment.
Social, communal and other local matters should be the remit of management, that is why the established officials get paid enormous salaries, why do we need third party political meddlers to lord it over what is little more than a social business system?
......"If this is how Labour in Wales responds to a senior Labour member and politician what hope have the common voter have?...." Good question, to which I would add.... why do we need political parties anyway? Or indeed politicians playing their ridiculous games with our every waking moment. Social, communal and other local matters should be the remit of management, that is why the established officials get paid enormous salaries, why do we need third party political meddlers to lord it over what is little more than a social business system? varteg1

12:26am Fri 14 Feb 14

Spinflight says...

They meddle with things they don't understand just so people think they're doing something. The NHS in particular has suffered from political meddling, according to most sources it has been in a constant state of change and reform since it was set up in the late 40's.

Except the politicians no-one has had a say in the NHS since then either, complaints are handled by the NHS, there is no democratic accountability despite one in ten of our tax pounds going on it.

www.ukipnewport.com
They meddle with things they don't understand just so people think they're doing something. The NHS in particular has suffered from political meddling, according to most sources it has been in a constant state of change and reform since it was set up in the late 40's. Except the politicians no-one has had a say in the NHS since then either, complaints are handled by the NHS, there is no democratic accountability despite one in ten of our tax pounds going on it. www.ukipnewport.com Spinflight

3:24pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Poolerkev says...

Mr Nutt

Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway.
Mr Nutt Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway. Poolerkev

3:55pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Poolerkev wrote:
Mr Nutt

Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway.
Six?? He's in favour of an independent Wales. So that's two and a half then. And none an economist.
[quote][p][bold]Poolerkev[/bold] wrote: Mr Nutt Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway.[/p][/quote]Six?? He's in favour of an independent Wales. So that's two and a half then. And none an economist. Llanmartinangel

10:24pm Fri 14 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

Poolerkev says.. what a sad person you are a nameless writer.
Poolerkev says.. what a sad person you are a nameless writer. pwlldu

8:18am Sat 15 Feb 14

county mad says...

Ignoring the brain donor poolerkev, the main concern is the welsh governments refusal to hold an audit on patient mortality rates in wales, why? It is feared that it will be worse than Stafford particularly in N.Wales.Labour has had two main tasks to administer health and education they have failed miserably on both!
Ignoring the brain donor poolerkev, the main concern is the welsh governments refusal to hold an audit on patient mortality rates in wales, why? It is feared that it will be worse than Stafford particularly in N.Wales.Labour has had two main tasks to administer health and education they have failed miserably on both! county mad

9:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Poolerkev wrote:
Mr Nutt

Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway.
Six?? He's in favour of an independent Wales. So that's two and a half then. And none an economist.
it would be a laugh to see a independent wales where do they think all the money would come from - selling welsh books worldwide lol
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poolerkev[/bold] wrote: Mr Nutt Is that all you do is write letters to the Argus for a living? You seem to be writing loads. Get a life mun!! Only about 6 people care what you write anyway.[/p][/quote]Six?? He's in favour of an independent Wales. So that's two and a half then. And none an economist.[/p][/quote]it would be a laugh to see a independent wales where do they think all the money would come from - selling welsh books worldwide lol scraptheWAG

4:59pm Sun 16 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

scraptheWAG says... & Llanmartinangel wrote: Why harp on about independance, first we should be all working together to improve the lives of people living in Wales. By providing good education, jobs and health all the things London and Cardiff bay governments has failed. Sadly the plan is to keep the people of Wales down by keeping Wales as a dependant country. Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. USSR thought exactly as the unionist do today.
scraptheWAG says... & Llanmartinangel wrote: Why harp on about independance, first we should be all working together to improve the lives of people living in Wales. By providing good education, jobs and health all the things London and Cardiff bay governments has failed. Sadly the plan is to keep the people of Wales down by keeping Wales as a dependant country. Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. USSR thought exactly as the unionist do today. pwlldu

5:47pm Sun 16 Feb 14

coalpicker says...

Spinflight wrote:
They meddle with things they don't understand just so people think they're doing something. The NHS in particular has suffered from political meddling, according to most sources it has been in a constant state of change and reform since it was set up in the late 40's.

Except the politicians no-one has had a say in the NHS since then either, complaints are handled by the NHS, there is no democratic accountability despite one in ten of our tax pounds going on it.

www.ukipnewport.com
Absolutely, self policing is the problem ,exemplified by the fact for all the cases of neglect ,incompetence in short not doing what they are paid for, not one of these highly paid workers at all levels have been prosecuted .
[quote][p][bold]Spinflight[/bold] wrote: They meddle with things they don't understand just so people think they're doing something. The NHS in particular has suffered from political meddling, according to most sources it has been in a constant state of change and reform since it was set up in the late 40's. Except the politicians no-one has had a say in the NHS since then either, complaints are handled by the NHS, there is no democratic accountability despite one in ten of our tax pounds going on it. www.ukipnewport.com[/p][/quote]Absolutely, self policing is the problem ,exemplified by the fact for all the cases of neglect ,incompetence in short not doing what they are paid for, not one of these highly paid workers at all levels have been prosecuted . coalpicker

5:56pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
scraptheWAG says... & Llanmartinangel wrote: Why harp on about independance, first we should be all working together to improve the lives of people living in Wales. By providing good education, jobs and health all the things London and Cardiff bay governments has failed. Sadly the plan is to keep the people of Wales down by keeping Wales as a dependant country. Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. USSR thought exactly as the unionist do today.
'Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. '

It isn't rich or confident. And the psyche here will see to it that it is never either of those.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: scraptheWAG says... & Llanmartinangel wrote: Why harp on about independance, first we should be all working together to improve the lives of people living in Wales. By providing good education, jobs and health all the things London and Cardiff bay governments has failed. Sadly the plan is to keep the people of Wales down by keeping Wales as a dependant country. Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. USSR thought exactly as the unionist do today.[/p][/quote]'Do you think a rich confident Wales would want to stay within the UK. ' It isn't rich or confident. And the psyche here will see to it that it is never either of those. Llanmartinangel

11:07am Mon 17 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says... its people like you who keep talking Wales down because you are happy to keep Wales a dependandt country within the union.
Llanmartinangel says... its people like you who keep talking Wales down because you are happy to keep Wales a dependandt country within the union. pwlldu

7:57pm Tue 18 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

An idependant England would struggle world wide and fail to be a major force in the world.
An idependant England would struggle world wide and fail to be a major force in the world. pwlldu

11:35am Wed 19 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
An idependant England would struggle world wide and fail to be a major force in the world.
How do you work that out? It's be richer for a start as it generates most of the money.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: An idependant England would struggle world wide and fail to be a major force in the world.[/p][/quote]How do you work that out? It's be richer for a start as it generates most of the money. Llanmartinangel

7:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

The English brand around the world isn't as strong as the British brand. England would need to reduce its wages to compete with Welsh wages. Wales is the new China of Europe didn't you know. Compaies will flock to Wales for the low wages economy.
The English brand around the world isn't as strong as the British brand. England would need to reduce its wages to compete with Welsh wages. Wales is the new China of Europe didn't you know. Compaies will flock to Wales for the low wages economy. pwlldu

9:22pm Thu 20 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

wages in wales will not compete with china too many beneft billies
wages in wales will not compete with china too many beneft billies scraptheWAG

10:43pm Thu 20 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

There is 1,258,069 people claiming benefits in England. So you see Wales is not the only country within the UK have a lost generation.
There is 1,258,069 people claiming benefits in England. So you see Wales is not the only country within the UK have a lost generation. pwlldu

11:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

pwlldu says...

England's benefit bill is higher than the Welsh Assembly budget. Over seas aid, MOD are both higher than the Welsh Assembly budget.
England's benefit bill is higher than the Welsh Assembly budget. Over seas aid, MOD are both higher than the Welsh Assembly budget. pwlldu

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